netapp and the hoke they were this giro

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

They were visible, they were aggressive, they were a little bit of luck away from a couple of stage wins. Don't think you can ask anything more of a wild card team.

Barta and Huzarski were lucky to finish second on those stages, actually. Both De Marchi and Visconti were visibly stronger, along with the winners of those stages. Amador and Purito deserved those wins, obviously. The strongest riders won.

I can sort of understand the people who wanted Barta to win because Amador and De Marchi let him regain contact, but really, he was lucky to still be there at the end.

 

[Roude Leiw]

If the idea of the invite was exposure to the german market, they utterly failed, the german press (national, non sports press) completely ignored the GIRO.

Getting 2 second places and being in a number of breakaways is not sufficient to justify these kind of invitations for a 3rd tier team.

 

[greenedge]

@18-Valve: Barta had attacked earlier to get away, Amador/ De Marchi followed after he attacked.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

They did just fine.
And I haven't heard many italian media applauding them. In most cases they didn't even know NetApp was there actually.

the italian media were not happy at all with netapp. and during the giro they found out netapp had paid rcs to get into the giro. how pathetic is that. I can see acquarone already lose his position after this abysmal giro in every way.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Amador is not South American.

he's latin-american

 

[Gloin22]

They didn't really deserve the place over Acqua and Sapone. Yes, but they made most of it and produce some solid results which were good to see.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

@18-Valve: Barta had attacked earlier to get away, Amador/ De Marchi followed after he attacked.

I saw the stage, thanks. I also read the post-stage interviews. Amador was in full control the whole time

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

exactly. there was never a doubt amador wouldn't win. and barta surely would not have won.

 

[RHRH19861986]

I was quite critical about NetApps invitation, and still think A&S would´ve deserved it more, but NetApp didn´t do so bad. They were the worst of the wildcard teams, but still better than some WorldTour teams.

Their GT GC Leopold Konig was missing due to injury (back problems), he maybe could´ve done Top20, and also Marcel Wyss would have improved their performance, but the results + the TV minutes in escape groups + 7 of 9 riders reaching Milano, that´s OK... 3-4 out of 5 points, IMHO.

 

[User Guide]

they did ok, as much or better than could be expected.Some of the WT though shocking absolutely shocking; greenedge? ok they had Goss but what about GC? Beppu 121st over 4 hours back,Saxo? Rabo?

 

[roundabout]

Barta and Huzarski were lucky to finish second on those stages, actually. Both De Marchi and Visconti were visibly stronger, along with the winners of those stages. Amador and Purito deserved those wins, obviously. The strongest riders won.

I can sort of understand the people who wanted Barta to win because Amador and De Marchi let him regain contact, but really, he was lucky to still be there at the end.

Get over it. Huzarski was in the right position on stage 10 and got the result he deserved. Or are you going to award placings based on the speed the last 300 meters were covered?

And as for De Marchi unless he is **** in the sprint he wasn't stronger over the whole climb to take second.

 

[dlwssonic]

they did way better than rabo and saxo.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

saxo had a 2nd, 3rd and 4th place. that's a lot worse than netapp indeed anyway the discussions isn't here about saxo or rabo. yes they sucked but it couldn't be helped. they are wt. however netapp bought a wildcard and made it into a joke. imagine how acqua would've done here with garzelli and betancourt. and it's an italian team as well.

 

[dlwssonic]

saxo had a 2nd, 3rd and 4th place. that's a lot worse than netapp indeed anyway the discussions isn't here about saxo or rabo. yes they sucked but it couldn't be helped. they are wt. however netapp bought a wildcard and made it into a joke. imagine how acqua would've done here with garzelli and betancourt. and it's an italian team as well.

oh my bad...
But not like they did any better.

 

[roundabout]

2nd and two 4ths actually.

 

[Ragerod]

the italian media were not happy at all with netapp. and during the giro they found out netapp had paid rcs to get into the giro. how pathetic is that. I can see acquarone already lose his position after this abysmal giro in every way.

Shocking that, the Italian media being unhappy that an Italian team misses out to a non-Italian team.

Netapp aren't the first race sponsor to get their team in the race and won't be the last, it's not pathetic.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

since the giro is 90% dependant on italian media and market. yes it was a stupid decision.

 

[hrotha]

It was stupid from a sporting point of view, but if their goal is to correct that dependence on the Italian market and to keep that particular sponsor (and who knows how important keeping them was) then it makes perfect sense.

 

[Ragerod]

The claim has been to have a more international Giro but inviting netapp was an odd direction to go considering its size and the lack of a big name on the team. But I wouldn't be surprised if netapp are back next year and have a couple of better riders on its roster.

 

[SafeBet]

They did it for the money, it's that simple.
400k are not peanuts.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Get over it. Huzarski was in the right position on stage 10 and got the result he deserved. Or are you going to award placings based on the speed the last 300 meters were covered?

And as for De Marchi unless he is **** in the sprint he wasn't stronger over the whole climb to take second.

Netapp sucked. You get over it.

The notion that Netapp was "a bit of luck away" from a couple stage wins warrants a response, as if they narrowly lost out to the eventual winners. LOL. Both riders got the result they deserved, but there was luck involved.

Visconti had to make up a lot of ground before the sprint.

As for De Marchi most likely not being stronger over the whole climb just because Barta beat him in the sprint... what kind of logic is that? How about judging the actual climb? The last 3 k were essentially flat. De Marchi pulled the most at the end, and attacked with about 1.5 to go. Barta most likely did nothing but sit wheels up until that point. At least he didn't in the parts that were televised. And then, of course, Amador owned them all. It was kind of a lazy win, actually.

 

[roundabout]

What kind of logic? The one where Barta getting a gap on him in the end suggests that Barta had more in the tank. Then again, maybe Barta is just that much better in the sprint, I dunno.

Also if we want to judge the actual climb, a "visibly stronger" rider should have held the gap he got. But ok, maybe he only wanted to catch Amador and then was afraid of working too much with him.

 

[Christian]

And 50% Russian, 25% Spanish and 25% Costa Rican equals 0% South American.

lol I was actually wondering when I posted this, is anyone going to call me on this since Costa Rica is not South America. Surely no one is going to be that pedantic I thought. I was wrong

For once I must agree with Ryo and go with "latin american" instead. even hispano-american would fit i suppose!

 

[killswitch]

Barta most likely did nothing but sit wheels up until that point. At least he didn't in the parts that were televised. And then, of course, Amador owned them all. It was kind of a lazy win, actually.

Barta attacked at the bottom of the first climb and was caught on the descent by Amador, dropped and got back on the last climb.

Amador owned them all. It was kind of a lazy win, actually.

Rabottini and Amador both won because the contenders didn't race till 2 km to go. Rubiano & De Gendt were "deserving" stage winners.

edit: reading your previous posts in other threads, seems you didn't even watch the Giro

 

[Bavarianrider]

I think the inter giro should be brought back. This would offer the smaller teams like Netapp a chance to battle for a jersey, too.