New bike sponsor for Team Astana 2010?

[vala-vala]

Dear friend, I hope that someone can say me something rumour about the new bike sponsor for Astana in 2010?
Perhaps BIANCHI, or Colnago.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Dear friend, I hope that someone can say me something rumour about the new bike sponsor for Astana in 2010?
Perhaps BIANCHI, or Colnago.

Ill bet $100,000 it won't be Trek. Any takers?

 

[Clemson Cycling]

What odds are you going to give me. Probably knock the dust off some communist piece of crap

 

[**Uru**]

I think we will be seeing them ride this:

 

[Anonymous]

They are going to get Kazakhstan's number one bicycle manufacturer, Altynai's Bicycle Making Super Donkey,(something must get lost in the translation) on board.

Here is their top model

Pretty sweet.

 

[Bala Verde]

Since we know that Vino loves to mow over everyone else, they came up with this model

 

[Cobber]

They are going to get Kazakhstan's number one bicycle manufacturer, Altynai's Bicycle Making Super Donkey,(something must get lost in the translation) on board.

Here is their top model

Pretty sweet.

You forgot the hitch to the donkey, a la Borat's car!

What a great thread....

 

[Bala Verde]

And here is the concept bike which they [TFF's Kazach Cycling for Benefit of Glorious Nation Tin/Scrap Metal Bike plant] will want to have in production before 2013:

 

[FFWally]

Well who is out there without a ProTour team?

Bianchi - Barloworld
Cyfac -
BH - Ag2r (not going anywhere)
Giant - Rabobank
Specialized - Quick Step, Saxo Bank
Trek - Radio Shack, shack, shack shack...
Cannondale - Liquigas
Colnago -
DeRosa - ACQUA & SAPONE - CAFFE MOKAMBO
Focus - Milram
Scott - Columbia
Pinnarello - Caisse d'Epargne
Canyon - Silence/Lotto
Willier - Lampre
Merckx - doubtful with eddy and Lance's relationship
Fuji - Fuji Servetto
Stork -
Ciöcc - old ties with the Soviet National Team
Orbea - Never leaving
Felt - Garmin
Look - Look
La Pierre - Francaise des Jeux
Author - PSK WHIRLPOOL - AUTHOR
Cervelo - CTT

Feel free to fill in the ones already taken.

Bianchi is already tied to a strong Pro Continental team Barloworld, can not see them leaving for an iffy Astana.

 

[TRDean]

Well who is out there without a ProTour team?

Bianchi - Barloworld
Cyfac -
BH - Ag2r (not going anywhere)
Giant - Rabobank
Specialized - Quick Step, Saxo Bank
Trek - Radio Shack, shack, shack shack...
Cannondale - Liquigas
Colnago -
DeRosa - ACQUA & SAPONE - CAFFE MOKAMBO
Focus - Milram
Scott - Columbia
Pinnarello - Caisse d'Epargne
Canyon - Silence/Lotto
Willier - Lampre
Merckx - doubtful with eddy and Lance's relationship
Fuji - Fuji Servetto
Stork -
Ciöcc - old ties with the Soviet National Team
Orbea - Never leaving
Felt - Garmin
Look - Look
La Pierre - Francaise des Jeux
Author - PSK WHIRLPOOL - AUTHOR
Cervelo - CTT

Feel free to fill in the ones already taken.

Bianchi is already tied to a strong Pro Continental team Barloworld, can not see them leaving for an iffy Astana.

Hey you forgot Schwinn

 

[redstar]

Time, perhaps.

 

[**Uru**]

What about Time?

 

[FFWally]

Hey you forgot Schwinn

Not at all Schwinn, er Cannondale is already listed.

 

[The_Z_man]

Time, perhaps.

Unless BBox drops out, probably not. Maybe Time wants to branch out and have multiple teams.

 

[Cobber]

My vote is for this one... It looks a lot faster than it actually is.

 

[Cobber]

...... and for the timetrials, how about this?

 

[FFWally]

Unless BBox drops out, probably not. Maybe Time wants to branch out and have multiple teams.

Giant, Specialized, Merida, Fuji, Trek with multiple teams, all but Trek attached to the big three Taiwanese manufacturers.

Look, Bianchi, Colnago, Willier, Ridley...all way too small to budget for 2 teams.

ProTour has min 25 closer to 30 riders.

All with at least 2 road bikes, and a TT bike. Then replacement on broken ones...

looking at €100,000 outlay. figuring a 15-20% net profit on frames for the manufacturer/brand, that would take 200-300 frames sold, just to cover their cost. Easily doubling that to make up for lost revenue on the ones sent to the team. Time, materials, labor all add up.

How does a Colnago or Pinarello make up the money lost on 2 pro tour teams.

Think it will be a mid sized player taking a shot. If Contador stays then a name shows up. Maybe even Orbea, but I somehow doubt it.

 

[The_Z_man]

How does a Colnago or Pinarello make up the money lost on 2 pro tour teams.

Have you checked out prices on a Prince lately? That's how!

 

[mr. tibbs]

Unless BBox drops out, probably not. Maybe Time wants to branch out and have multiple teams.

Time was up to three a couple years ago (Bouguyes, Cofidis, & QuickStep).

I personally wouldn't mind seeing Fondriest return to the ProTour, but they've got that Continental team right now, so they're probably out.

 

[SpannerBender]

Has it been confirmed that Sky will ride Boardman?
(I'm sure there was a better way of wording that)

 

[FFWally]

Prince frameset $4500 in the US.

Dealer gets about 30-35% markup. (Takes 35% just to pay all the bills...)

So Dealer pays $2950

That means that Colnago is making about $500 a frame, and if memory serves, the prices are set for a year, so when you figure in a cratering Dollar it could be more like €275-350 per frame depending on the day.

So that divided into €100,000 is a hell of a lot of bikes.

Profit in the bike business is pretty slim.

 

[Hugh Januss]

They are going to get Kazakhstan's number one bicycle manufacturer, Altynai's Bicycle Making Super Donkey,(something must get lost in the translation) on board.

Here is their top model

Pretty sweet.

Since we know that Vino loves to mow over everyone else, they came up with this model

You guys both got those out of your garages didn't you.

 

[The_Z_man]

My reply to your post was meant to be a joke. I should have inserted the proper emoticon.

 

[jimbo1980]

Hey everyone, new to the forum. Well can't imagine Astana with Trek or BMC for that matter (!!)-maybe they will go with someone like Kestrel who are currently with Rock Racing.....It may also be a possibility that one of the manufacturers who are with one team may expand........In the end I think Astana will be with a company that is trying to break into the mainstream (cube maybe etc)

 

[avantage]

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