New WADA/AFLD Influenced Tour Podium: Pick 'em

[Kender]

Bur first there would be a tweet "Bloodthirsty dogs broke into my room at 4am. How do you say SSDD in dog?"

surprise sucker, drug dog?

 

[python]

afld’s official reaction to wada’s resolution.
http://www.afld.fr/docs/actu313_Dlibration152.pdf

it beams with deep satisfaction and mentions several judicial investigations including the flandisgate.

the document specifically highlighted the last paragraph of wada’s verdict where afld would be granted full independent testing authority if the uci does not comply for whatever reason.

i see some interesting times during the tour.

edit:
forgot to mention (not in the document) that earlier bordry praised usada for providing afld with whereabouts of certain american riders. i guess de facto afld achieved what they've after regardless of the uci position.

 

[Anonymous]

afld’s official reaction to wada’s resolution.
http://www.afld.fr/docs/actu313_Dlibration152.pdf

it beams with deep satisfaction and mentions several judicial investigations including the flandisgate.

the document specifically highlighted the last paragraph of wada’s verdict where afld would be granted full independent testing authority if the uci does not comply for whatever reason.

i see some interesting times during the tour.

6 - At a time when several judicial investigations in cycling are taking place
in France, but also in the United States in the wake of revelations of Floyd Landis. AFLD wants to renew his support for AMA in its efforts for credible doping political?[/B]

 

[python]

6 - At a time when several judicial investigations in cycling are taking place
in France, but also in the United States in the wake of revelations of Floyd Landis. AFLD wants to renew his support for AMA in its efforts for credible doping political?[/B]

here's another official confirmation that the criminal investigation in the us is indeed taking place. several posters here and elsewhere keep questioning the fact.

i reckon since they are french and are after lance they should not be trusted.

but on the other hand i suggest to armstrong apologists to think a bit - here's the best confirmation to date that usada, afld, french police and novitzky/miller are in touch and exchanging information.

 

[Race Radio]

afld’s official reaction to wada’s resolution.
http://www.afld.fr/docs/actu313_Dlibration152.pdf

it beams with deep satisfaction and mentions several judicial investigations including the flandisgate.

the document specifically highlighted the last paragraph of wada’s verdict where afld would be granted full independent testing authority if the uci does not comply for whatever reason.

i see some interesting times during the tour.

edit:
forgot to mention (not in the document) that earlier bordry praised usada for providing afld with whereabouts of certain american riders. i guess de facto afld achieved what they've after regardless of the uci position.

Thanks Python, Here is a Google translate

Deliberation No. 152, College of the AFLD on the resolution of the AMA
regarding the application of the AFLD to make additional checks
during the Tour de France 2010
1 - The College of the AFLD has examined today the resolution of the World Agency
doping on the request of the AFLD to conduct checks
Additional during the Tour de France 2010.
2 - He decided to respond positively to the proposal that the AMA made it
perform additional checks under the World Anti-Doping Code.
3 - The College of the AFLD has noted that "the AMA is concerned that the controls
carried out by the AFLD would necessarily be subject to French law, which to date
is not in full compliance with the Code. To remedy
to this legal problem, the AMA proposes to carry out its checks
intermediary.
4 - The College noted that "WADA believes that the information provided [by
AFLD] at first sight seem realistic and useful for the realization of
blitz on runners. "
Five - The College has finally appreciated the significance of the last paragraph of the resolution which has
"If, for any reason whatsoever, this resolution is not accepted or
respected by the UCI during the Tour de France, WADA authorize the AFLD to do
itself these additional controls. "
6 - At a time when several judicial investigations in cycling are being
in France, but also in the United States in the wake of revelations of Floyd Landis
AFLD wants to renew its support for WADA in its efforts for a political
doping credible.

 

[Anonymous]

The afld must be besides themselves at the minute,. They got far more than they had asked for. They just asked to do tests, theyve got much more than that.

I think where they refer to investigations it doesnt translate that well. I read the the french investigations and the american federal investigation is very seperate. What is interesting of course is two years ago when afld conducted testing in the tour, seven riders got caught for cera in total. Much better than the UCI ever do.

 

[Race Radio]

The afld must be besides themselves at the minute,. They got far more than they had asked for. They just asked to do tests, theyve got much more than that.

I think where they refer to investigations it doesnt translate that well. I read the the french investigations and the american federal investigation is very seperate. What is interesting of course is two years ago when afld conducted testing in the tour, seven riders got caught for cera in total. Much better than the UCI ever do.

They are not, especially in reference to the transfusion kits.

 

[Oldman]

Thanks Python, Here is a Google translate

Deliberation No. 152, College of the AFLD on the resolution of the AMA
regarding the application of the AFLD to make additional checks
during the Tour de France 2010
1 - The College of the AFLD has examined today the resolution of the World Agency
doping on the request of the AFLD to conduct checks
Additional during the Tour de France 2010.
2 - He decided to respond positively to the proposal that the AMA made it
perform additional checks under the World Anti-Doping Code.
3 - The College of the AFLD has noted that "the AMA is concerned that the controls
carried out by the AFLD would necessarily be subject to French law, which to date
is not in full compliance with the Code. To remedy
to this legal problem, the AMA proposes to carry out its checks
intermediary.
4 - The College noted that "WADA believes that the information provided [by
AFLD] at first sight seem realistic and useful for the realization of
blitz on runners. "
Five - The College has finally appreciated the significance of the last paragraph of the resolution which has
"If, for any reason whatsoever, this resolution is not accepted or
respected by the UCI during the Tour de France, WADA authorize the AFLD to do
itself these additional controls. "
6 - At a time when several judicial investigations in cycling are being
in France, but also in the United States in the wake of revelations of Floyd Landis
AFLD wants to renew its support for WADA in its efforts for a political
doping credible.

So, with all this information available on several threads I ask the original question: Who will be on the podium when the Tour ends?

 

[sel1700]

1.wiggins
2.evans
3.cancellera with motor bike.

 

[Anonymous]

1.wiggins
2.evans
3.cancellera with motor bike.

that isnt as stupid as it sounds.

 

[Oldman]

1.wiggins
2.evans
3.cancellera with motor bike.

Let's throw VandeVelde in there-

1. Wiggins
2. Evans
3. VandeVelde

 

[Polish]

There is a HUGE difference between Donkeys and Thoroughbreds.

When Thoroughbreds are off the sauce - they are still AWESOME.
When Donkeys are off the sauce - they fade away & the truth is revealed.

Thoroughbreds have CLASS.

If the 2010 "WADA" Tour runs on Mineral Water alone, the Podium will have CLASS:

1) Basso
2) Armstrong
3) Vino4Ever

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Can't see any reason why the final podium won't contain 3 auto transfusers as per usual

 

[Galic Ho]

Assuming the newly contracted Tour testing is effective with WADA "helping" the UCI; do your podium picks change?

No. The UCI have not altered the parameter of the BioPassport so riders can still use autologuous transfusions. Their parameters can remain constant throughout the race, aka, Lance and Wiggo last year and thus perform as well in the last week as they did in the first. Hence why some guys appear to drop and others improve. The improvers did not really improve, the others just didn't have the same medical program those whose parameters remained constant did.

Give it a year...maybe, just maybe with the Floyd allegations and what Ashenden has said, maybe, the Biopassport might be altered. When the rules state your Hct has to drop over a three week race and if it doesn't, then you're doping, then and only then will the riders have to change their behaviour. I expect Lance to go all out this year. Perhaps one uninformed test or procedure by the AFLD can scare the beejesus out of a rider (LA or Wigans will do) and they can choke later on. That would be awesome to see.

 

[Galic Ho]

There is a HUGE difference between Donkeys and Thoroughbreds.

When Thoroughbreds are off the sauce - they are still AWESOME.
When Donkeys are off the sauce - they fade away & the truth is revealed.

Thoroughbreds have CLASS.

If the 2010 "WADA" Tour runs on Mineral Water alone, the Podium will have CLASS:

1) Basso
2) Armstrong
3) Vino4Ever

You smoke some strong $h1t. There is only one rider there with class...Vino. Basso and Armstrong are almost physically identical, power, weight, V02max, etc. Basso and Lance both have a V02max of 80-81. They cannot win any major race clean...ever. Vino can. Evans can. Valverde can. Contador can. The predicament is to get everyone off the sauce. Then you'll see where the clean level is at.

Does anyone have figures for Basso from the Aldo Sassi endorsed site? Did his blood drop in the Giro. I looked but the douches make you register to see the results. I couldn't be bothered giving my email address away just to see some cycling numbers. I'd really like to see how they are. Because Basso's V02max indicates he should never, ever, have won a GT.

 

[Anonymous]

finally a journalist has actually bothered to read the wada decision on the afld and done a decent article.. cycling news take note, read the bloody report next time before reporting on it.

http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/

 

[python]

finally a journalist has actually bothered to read the wada decision on the afld and done a decent article.. cycling news take note, read the bloody report next time before reporting on it.

http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/

ahh, it's joe lindsey, no surprise. always a thoughtful a chap.

 

[Anonymous]

finally a journalist has actually bothered to read the wada decision on the afld and done a decent article.. cycling news take note, read the bloody report next time before reporting on it.

http://bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/

Thanks for posting. Good to know that the tests will be focused and spontaneous...to a certain extent. I am guessing everyone involved is smart enough that the rest days will not involve a transfusion for anyone. I am also guessing that 2 am wake-up tests will be met with some resistance by riders, and will not be played out in the press as a positive thing.