TeamSkyFans said:All falling into the hands of saxo bank.
CycloErgoSum said:CN's editorialising:
"The resolution seems to be a good compromise..."
Nice one, Hedwig; way to be taken seriously as a journalist.
Big Doopie said:that's not how i read the news. yes, wada will be overseeing uci. but that wouldn't seem to stop uci from warning certain teams of the testers imminent arrival. it also wouldn't stop the uci from burying any inconvenient positive. and afld would appear to have only one small chance of being involved at all -- and that is if they have information (that no one else has) that would make them suspect certain riders.
i felt this agreement -- without afld being allowed to their own unannounced testing is actually a great loss.
if someone has a better understanding of the ramifications, please enlighten me.
RandomThought said:Slightly off topic, but:
In the case of Armstrong and an incident like Showergate, would a properly administered test actually have resulted in a positive? Or just a slightly suspicious passport value?
I always thought that the doping was refined enough that they really could beat the test, and weren't so reliant on advance warning about the tests.
But cases like Beltran would obviously suggest otherwise. Is Lance's program more refined, or is he really at risk if he happens to get tested at the "wrong" time?
To get back on topic, my thinking would be that the WADA/AFLD relationship would ultimately benefit whoever has the most refined program -- which I expect would be Radioshack/Lance...
Big Doopie said:thanks, TSF.
this does seem better after all. it's like wada is getting between the two so that there can't be just a he said/she said after the tour.
however, i have images of the uci person having a secret button in their pocket that they push as soon as they find out who they will be testing to warn them...
TeamSkyFans said:They dont need a secret button. Radioshack will just have interns everywhere looking out for testers. Will be like the drug gangs use kids in the cities to spot police, and secretly send text messages along the route so the bad guys know exactly where the police are, or in london where the dodgy food sellers have lookouts on every corner.
thehog said:Yes its very difficult to know when the UCI are coming wearing their secret non-identifiable clothing!
Oldman said:And the nose-pick is a signal for the type of test. This nostril indicates a urine specimen most certainly...
Thoughtforfood said:Maybe they need to employ blood bag/saline bag sniffing dogs in the hotels? In reality, they could train dogs to do that, and I bet the dogs would go wild when turned loose.
ilillillli said:Ha! Nice. Dogs trained to crave the scent of human blood? Can't think of a problem with that
Thoughtforfood said:No, not blood. The bag itself. Or more correctly the smell of the bag and the blood/saline combination. I would think a bloodhound would be able to discern them.
TeamSkyFans said:and heres me thinking you would all be happy about the afld/wada pack, instead we just have a whole new brand of cynisism
ilillillli said:Ah... I was just having a little fun anyway. It'd just be great to see the first rest day headline on CyclingNews read: "UCI Plan to Use Bloodthirsty Dogs Goes Terribly Awry: Partially-Devoured Armstrong Vows to Fight On."
Thoughtforfood said:Bur first there would be a tweet "Bloodthirsty dogs broke into my room at 4am. How do you say SSDD in dog?"
Cobblestones said:... while a$$ scratching would indicate blood testing.