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Nordic Skiing/Biathlon Thread

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Mayomaniac said:
I looked at the laps in Planica and they look good. The individual start races are interesting. 2 different laps, the women will do 1 on the first and 1 on the second, the men an additional one on the 2nd. So at least for the women's race nobody will benefit from skiing behind anyone and even in the men's race it's gonna be hard for the favourites to get lucky.
The 7.15km lap for the 50km race also looks hard, really long uphill sections, but never absurdly steep. Looks perfect for Iivo (knocks on wood).

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1,088m of altitude gain for the men's skiathlon (half of it for the women), 1,869m for the 50km men's race, 590m for the 15km race, 385m for the 10km race and 1,088m for the 30km women's race. Even the sprint course features 49m of altitude gain and a longer climb with am altitude gain of 32m, they all look hard.
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But the same loop for the 50km is boring.
 
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BigCoward said:
He might as well win the mass start now. I'd rather someone else had won today. But nobody has ever won the 4 individual races so at least we would be seeing greatness. They should leave him out of the relay though, for the lols.
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I don't think that Bø will be out of any of the relays and if the female athlete chosen for the single mixed relay is in a good day he can actually win all seven gold medals in these Championships which would be even more impressive than Bjørndalen in Salt Lake City.

His skiing performance today was shocking even for his standards, the best that I have ever seen from a biathlete.
 
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  • 1:10 in a World Championship Individual is the biggest gap since Hanevold in front of Vesa Hietalahti in Khanty 2003
  • 1:46 between 1 and 2 in the course time is not found in the records of the IBU for the World Championships. They go up to 2003. 1:59 between 1 and 4, or 3:14!! between 1 and 10 not at all
  • The only race that plays in this range in terms of course time is OEB at his famous 5 penalty-festival in Antholz 22 years ago. 1:30 on Frode Andresen, 2:26 on the 3rd and 3:30 on the 10th course time.
  • Started with the 11 and finished as 1 is logically also unique
  • JTB started 2:30 behind QFM (last year's Olympic champion in this discipline and overall World Cup winner)
  • On the 1st lap we have for QFM about 2:22min for one kilometer. That means JTB has started 1k behind Quentin and finished before him. Current Olympic Champions, 4th in this race, 7th course time
  • Based on Ski Time (course time, range & shooting), Martin Ponsiluoma was the only starter today who could have beaten him with 20/20
 
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Max Rockatansky said:
  • 1:10 in a World Championship Individual is the biggest gap since Hanevold in front of Vesa Hietalahti in Khanty 2003
  • 1:46 between 1 and 2 in the course time is not found in the records of the IBU for the World Championships. They go up to 2003. 1:59 between 1 and 4, or 3:14!! between 1 and 10 not at all
  • The only race that plays in this range in terms of course time is OEB at his famous 5 penalty-festival in Antholz 22 years ago. 1:30 on Frode Andresen, 2:26 on the 3rd and 3:30 on the 10th course time.
  • Started with the 11 and finished as 1 is logically also unique
  • JTB started 2:30 behind QFM (last year's Olympic champion in this discipline and overall World Cup winner)
  • On the 1st lap we have for QFM about 2:22min for one kilometer. That means JTB has started 1k behind Quentin and finished before him. Current Olympic Champions, 4th in this race, 7th course time
  • Based on Ski Time (course time, range & shooting), Martin Ponsiluoma was the only starter today who could have beaten him with 20/20
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Wow, thanks a Lot for that summary, Well appreciated.
 
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BigCoward said:
The pressure on 20 when you hit the first 19 must be off the charts. Persson wins unless something drastic happens.
She has slowed drastically so it's possible someone beats her with 19.

Edit Oeberg has to make up 14 seconds on last lap.
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She raced behind Hermann for at least one lap that helped her a lot.
Vittozzi raced a perfect race until the final shot, but frankly it's already a huge deal after having to skip the pursuit, not to mention the last few seasons...
 
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Back to Vittozzi, on Saturday she had 39° C of fever, so a medal just a few days later is super impressive. Her skiing speed was probably not what it's usually. Also, am I the only one who thinks that Wierer's technique lacks a bit compared to the top skating skiers? I get the feeling that she's pushing the poles down too much with her arms and not using her core strength/the hip hinge movement that much to support it.

Italy finally selected the team for the XC skiing/Nordic WC:

Donne

Federica Sanfilippo (1990 - Fiamme Oro)
Caterina Ganz (1995 - Fiamme Gialle)
Anna Comarella (1997 - Fiamme Oro)
Francesca Franchi (1997 - Fiamme Gialle)
Cristina Pittin (1998 - Esercito)
Nicole Monsorno (2000 - Fiamme Gialle)
Martina Di Centa (2000 - Carabinieri)
Nadine Laurent (2003 - Fiamme Oro)
Iris De Martin Pinter (2004 - Carabinieri).


Uomini

Dietmar Nöckler (1988 - Fiamme Oro)
Federico Pellegrino (1990 - Fiamme Oro)
Giandomenico Salvadori (1992 - Fiamme Gialle)
Francesco De Fabiani (1993 - Esercito)
Paolo Ventura (1996 - Esercito)
Simone Daprà (1997 - Fiamme Oro)
Simone Mocellini (1998 - Fiamme Gialle)
Davide Graz (2000 - Fiamme Gialle)
Elia Barp (2002 - Fiamme Gialle).

I'm actually fine with this, the young women who raced the junior/u23 WC get a chance to gain some experience, Sanfilippo gets to do the sprint and even young Elia Barp gets a chance after winning the 15km skating NC by beatint Daprà (without any of the world cup guys).

From what he has said De Fa will skip the 15km skating race and maybe even the Skiathlon. The big goals for him are the teamsprint, the relay and then the 50km race. Nöckler is there for the 50km race and the relay and Salvadori is pretty much the only long distance specialist Italy has, so he should have a spot in the 50km race locked up. I guess the young guys Graz and Barp will do the 15km skating and maybe the 3rd leg in the relay, if one of them does really well. I rate both of them higher than Daprà, if I have to be honest.

In other news, Norway is actually letting Klaebo do the 15km skating race. I guess that's the benefit of being a big star and it looks like he really wants to get a medal in every race (I hope he doesn't).
 
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JTB getting an 8 second lead for last leg seems a bit unfair.
The speed he goes past some of the slower females uphill is just comical.

Moldova in 6th, go on the little countries.

He's blown it. Penalty loop. Now it's interesting.

of course it wasn't, who was I kidding.
 
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