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ray j willings said:I have always thought this would be a great idea.....
A mountain TT ,,,,2 riders go at the same time [ reverse order] 2 minutes apart.
That would be so exciting.
Could you imagine the last 2 riders going,,, ,Awesome, no cat and mouse just fast climbing.
Is this the answer to my comment, that the galibier wasn't overused in the last few years?Libertine Seguros said:
SeriousSam said:Alpe d'Huez is a great climb. Should be in every Tour
To be honest, Alp d Huez is a pretty good climb but the fact that we see it every second year is the reason why I hate it.Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
gunara said:ray j willings said:I have always thought this would be a great idea.....
A mountain TT ,,,,2 riders go at the same time [ reverse order] 2 minutes apart.
That would be so exciting.
Could you imagine the last 2 riders going,,, ,Awesome, no cat and mouse just fast climbing.
Yeah, imagine Chris and Brad in 2012....
Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
Libertine Seguros said:Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
(in order of when they came to my mind, not any particular ranking. Some are pretty debatable I think)
1. Monte Zoncolan
150. Passo Giau (south)
Phew, I was getting bored by the end there but luckily I left off quite a few famous ones as I'd have been annoyed if I had to give up.
Red Rick said:Libertine Seguros said:Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
(in order of when they came to my mind, not any particular ranking. Some are pretty debatable I think)
1. Monte Zoncolan
150. Passo Giau (south)
Phew, I was getting bored by the end there but luckily I left off quite a few famous ones as I'd have been annoyed if I had to give up.
Lol, I can't believe you just did that. That's awesome
Libertine Seguros said:Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
(in order of when they came to my mind, not any particular ranking. Some are pretty debatable I think)
1. Monte Zoncolan
150. Passo Giau (south)
Phew, I was getting bored by the end there but luckily I left off quite a few famous ones as I'd have been annoyed if I had to give up.
This would result in descending half of the Alpe climb to get from where the Villard-Reculas and Alpe d'Huez roads meet to the road from La Garde to Le Freney d'Oisans, right? If so, I can't imagine that will be possible, simply because of the amount of fans that will line the road that the riders are trying to descend. While the Vuelta has done something similar with the Navacerrada loop for Bola del Mundo, there the majority of the fans were on the section from Navacerrada to Bola del Mundo, which wasn't descended; also Navacerrada south is very straight, very few corners and no real technical tests, whereas the Alpe is full of hairpins, and given that fans will line up all the way up Alpe d'Huez it could be very difficult to maintain order.bonaqua said:After descending from Col du Glandon or Col du Croix de Fer, one option for the new route would be Allemond - Villard Reculas - La Garde - Le Freney d'Oisans - Le Bourg-d'Oisans - Alpe d'Huez. Really nice, small roads (D211B and D211A) and more climbing before MTF in Alpe d'Huez. I rode those roads on March.
Libertine Seguros said:Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
(in order of when they came to my mind, not any particular ranking. Some are pretty debatable I think)
1. Monte Zoncolan
2. Alto del Angliru
3. Rettenbachferner
4. Alto de La Línea
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147. Pico de las Nieves
148. Puerto de Izaña
149. Passo di Croce Domini (west)
150. Passo Giau (south)
Phew, I was getting bored by the end there but luckily I left off quite a few famous ones as I'd have been annoyed if I had to give up.
How long did you need to make this listLibertine Seguros said:Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
(in order of when they came to my mind, not any particular ranking. Some are pretty debatable I think)
1. Monte Zoncolan
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150. Passo Giau (south)
Phew, I was getting bored by the end there but luckily I left off quite a few famous ones as I'd have been annoyed if I had to give up.
yep, I agreeGigs_98 said:How long did you need to make this listLibertine Seguros said:Right, let's go!Red Rick said:My hate isn't with the Galibier, it's with Alp d'Huez
Pretty sure Libertine Seguros can dig up at least 150 climbs that are overall better than Alp d'Huez in terms of overall hardness, connectivity to other hard climbs and or scenery,
So many July tards think it's hardest climb if cycling, whilst it's barely worth to be HC.
(in order of when they came to my mind, not any particular ranking. Some are pretty debatable I think)
1. Monte Zoncolan
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-
-
150. Passo Giau (south)
Phew, I was getting bored by the end there but luckily I left off quite a few famous ones as I'd have been annoyed if I had to give up.
Do you really think all of these climbs are better than Alp d´Huez? I think if it would only be used once every ten years nobody would say this climb is bad.
I did say some of them were quite debatable, although I did leave off some good ones, like Pila-Ciel-Bleu, which I really shouldn't have forgotten since I love the Valle d'Aosta, and Superbagnères, which I love but am not really sure I could consider harder than Alpe d'Huez - although its connectivity to other climbs is far, far better because it can be linked straight off the back of Port de Balès, Peyresourde or Portillón with no respite. I also included the Tourmalet, which I despise, but is tougher than the Alpe. A lot are included simply for being overall harder climbs, not for necessarily being better than the Alpe, however like Angliru I think the Alpe is due a long layoff so that when they return it's something special. After all, the Stelvio and Mont Ventoux are among the most iconic climbs in world cycling, but the Giro and Tour respectively only visit them occasionally; it doesn't impair their lustre. The most excited people have been for the Angliru ever, apart from '99, was 2008 when it hadn't been seen in six years.Gigs_98 said:How long did you need to make this list
Do you really think all of these climbs are better than Alp d´Huez? I think if it would only be used once every ten years nobody would say this climb is bad.