Off season. We need some Giro 2011 discussion.

[gregrowlerson]

You're joking, right? This could very well be the weakest team in the race. Most of these names I only know from your contributions to this forum.

Funny post

I am generally not a big fan of the sprinters, but it would be nice to see Robbie McEwen get one more GT stage win. He may not get to ride the TDF, so hopefully he can take one of his few opportunities at the Giro.

 

[gregrowlerson]

And as for the Shacks team selection.......

Jani - Has never ridden a very good GT yet. It would be madness to try to do his first good one in THIS Giro.
Andreas - Too many tough mountain stages in the 2011 Giro for Klodi, who needs enough tough climbs to separate him from the pure TT's, but not too many more. The 2011 TDF is not a great parcours for him, but it's better than the Giro.
Levi - Often better against the clock than in the mountains, so similar to Kloden. He also has his love affair of that BIG race, the Tour of California to focus on
Chris - Horner is the one out of the big four that most likely could have done this Giro. I guess that Johan wants Klodi to have THREE super domestiques for Le Tour!

 

[gregrowlerson]

Funny post

I am generally not a big fan of the sprinters, but it would be nice to see Robbie McEwen get one more GT stage win. He may not get to ride the TDF, so hopefully he can take one of his few opportunities at the Giro.

I've just realised that my historic 100th post on this forum was about a sprinter.

 

[dlwssonic]

it's actually not that bad. Do you expect teams to put in their best lineups to every gt? It is not possible. Stop shack bashing!


Just a guess what bmc's lineup will be.

Beyer chad
butler chris
kristoff alexander
murphy john
zahner simon
schar michael
wyss danilo
kohler martin
frank matthias
(ballan alessandro)

omg that sucks!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If BMC had a team that was on a par with Radioshack's, ACF would be only too happy to Shack-bash.

At least the whole BMC team can make it to Italy this time, since the race is starting there.

 

[Ryaguas]

MV, shack's team ain't that bad for the giro. It's quite decent. Teams can't put their top team into every GT. It's not possible. That's why I said that you should stop Shack bashing.

LOL?
Even Euskaltel team is better than DaSchack one... I think that We have to critizice that selection... in Da Shack they are old but They have more to offer to Il Giro...
About BMC I dont blame them... They are a classics team and the few riders that They have for GTs are going to support Cuddles in Le Tour...

Besides that... Hope that Tiago can show very good legs in Il Giro! and Popo can sux it... Top 5 my ar$$e...

 

[ansimi]

That Radioshack team is really weak support given their roster. I'm thinking they want to keep riders available to pick from for the Tour since they don't have clear leadership. BMC is right to be keeping everybody who can support Evans available for him.

I guess the downside of a fantastically tough Giro is that we don't get as many strong riders. It will be worth it though and there will be lots of opportunities for those who do show up to race.

 

[Delicato]

That Radioshack team is really weak support given their roster. I'm thinking they want to keep riders available to pick from for the Tour since they don't have clear leadership. BMC is right to be keeping everybody who can support Evans available for him.

I guess the downside of a fantastically tough Giro is that we don't get as many strong riders. It will be worth it though and there will be lots of opportunities for those who do show up to race.

Not many strong riders? Oh well, Nibali,Contador, Menchov, Sastre, Anton, Scarponi-more than enough.

 

[jens_attacks]

with all what's happening right now in italy and because they want to bring this professional sport down for good,i don't expect more than two of the guys from the poll to be at the start...sad...

 

[auscyclefan94]

If BMC had a team that was on a par with Radioshack's, ACF would be only too happy to Shack-bash.

At least the whole BMC team can make it to Italy this time, since the race is starting there.

No I wouldn't. RSH's team isn't bad. Yes I think they could of put in better by having Klodi and maybe Zubeldia in there but it is quite decent.

You're joking, right? This could very well be the weakest team in the race. Most of these names I only know from your contributions to this forum.

Beyer chad
butler chris
kristoff alexander
murphy john
zahner simon
schar michael
wyss danilo
kohler martin
frank matthias
(ballan alessandro)

I assume that BMC's tour team would be

Evans
Bookwalter
Morabito
Moinard
Santaromita
Hincapie
Quinziato
Kroon
Burghardt

Evans and van avermaet are already confirmed for la vuelta. Assuming Ballan is allowed to race, he will also do la vuelta leading into the worlds.

Therefore that leaves:

Eijssen
Louder
Phinney
Roe
santambrogio
Tschopp

These are my assumptions but that's how I see the roster will turn out to be.

 

[Mellow Velo]

You would think that BMC would send Santaromita, Santambroggio or both to their home race, surely?
Tschopp had a great Giro last year, although I must admit to not having seen him at all this year.

Going back to this Shack selection. It is weak, or very weak, depending upon which Popovych turns up.
However, I look at it as an indictment of Bruyneel's "new league", given that he has eyes only for one event and places no value on being competitive at the Giro.

Seems to me that if ACF's BMC line up turns up to race, along with this Shack lot, the bus will resemble one from London.

BMC would be daft to place all it's eggs in Cadel's Tour basket, given his inconsistent form at the race. They are having a precarious season, as it is.

 

[canyonball]

They are having a precarious season, as it is.

I'm not saying your not right in your acessment, but you got to put things into perspective. When you look at last year, it's pretty obvious things are not the same. They were there/animated/where a factor/were visible in MSR, RVV and PR. They won Tirreno. They certainly have something to show after this classics season.

Agree with you on the rest. I understand only a handfull of teams have the opportunity to send a competitive team to every GT. But that line up would be just too bad. Tschopp, santaromita or santambroggio. At least one of them should be included.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

with all what's happening right now in italy and because they want to bring this professional sport down for good,i don't expect more than two of the guys from the poll to be at the start...sad...

seriously are you crazy? every year this happens and no one gets supended.

 

[jens_attacks]

seriously are you crazy? every year this happens and no one gets supended.

yeah tell that to pelli.
i think the situation there in italy is getting ridiculous,now a search mandate is like something normal,you don't even need any prove,haunting cyclists is like everyday basis.

meanwhile.....

they still run the country...but no,the doping industry is billions,making more than heroine=)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))haunting skinny guys who shave their legs is kind of easier to do.gtfo stupid useless cops.

and that's my last offtopic.

yeah bmc squad is zero if they don't come with ballan here.

 

[auscyclefan94]

You would think that BMC would send Santaromita, Santambroggio or both to their home race, surely?
Tschopp had a great Giro last year, although I must admit to not having seen him at all this year.

Going back to this Shack selection. It is weak, or very weak, depending upon which Popovych turns up.
However, I look at it as an indictment of Bruyneel's "new league", given that he has eyes only for one event and places no value on being competitive at the Giro.

Seems to me that if ACF's BMC line up turns up to race, along with this Shack lot, the bus will resemble one from London.

BMC would be daft to place all it's eggs in Cadel's Tour basket, given his inconsistent form at the race. They are having a precarious season, as it is.

Santaromita has made a big point about riding the tour this year. He has been good enough in the past but has been on a very strong liquigas team. Tschopp is probably someone who should start the Giro though he hasn't raced since Catalunya and is riding Romandie. Will be interesting to see if he rides the giro. Morabito could possibly be riding the giro as well as he is listed for trentino and romandie though I think it's more likely he'll be doing the tour than the giro.

I'm not saying your not right in your acessment, but you got to put things into perspective. When you look at last year, it's pretty obvious things are not the same. They were there/animated/where a factor/were visible in MSR, RVV and PR. They won Tirreno. They certainly have something to show after this classics season.

Agree with you on the rest. I understand only a handfull of teams have the opportunity to send a competitive team to every GT. But that line up would be just too bad. Tschopp, santaromita or santambroggio. At least one of them should be included.

I've probably been a little hasty with some of my judgements.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

santaromita is a oure climber like tschopp, who totally lacks the engine to do races over 200 k or even 180 k I say. I have my doubts wether that will improve as riders often seem to ride backwards when moving to bmc, look also at moinard who sucks hard now

 

[auscyclefan94]

santaromita is a oure climber like tschopp, who totally lacks the engine to do races over 200 k or even 180 k I say. I have my doubts wether that will improve as riders often seem to ride backwards when moving to bmc, look also at moinard who sucks hard now

not a bad classics rider, he was 2nd in the italian nationals last year. Both tschopp and moinard are having quite bad years.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

yeah but santaromita is vulnerable in flat so I think he'd be better as a pure climber like tschopp is. thing is in italy there are almost only classics so there's little else to show. bit like pozzovivo who has basically won every mountainsatge in italy last year but there were only 4 I think. Santaromita won settimana lombarda right?? that is some good climbing but like I said as long as the race isn't too long.

 

[cineteq]

Xavier Tondo - Movistar magic
Jose Rujano - Venezuelan
Duarte - Colombian
Sella - not on list
Daniel Martin - not on list
Franco Pellizoti - not on list
Eze Mosquera - not on list
Damiano Cunego - not on list
Roman Kreuziger - not on list
Robert Gesink - not on list (probably tour)
Peter Velits - not on list
Kashechkin - not on list

My vote: Michele Scarponi. If Ricco

Just for the record.

 

[Ferminal]

The question on everyone's minds is, will Moondance be making a return as stage thread creator extraordinaire?

 

[Eshnar]

Meanwhile, for 2012 is rumoured an mtf here

 

[dlwssonic]

santaromita is a oure climber like tschopp, who totally lacks the engine to do races over 200 k or even 180 k I say. I have my doubts wether that will improve as riders often seem to ride backwards when moving to bmc, look also at moinard who sucks hard now

Great point a lot of their riders are getting worst but then again they are training young and inexperience cyclist with talent, but the odd ones out are van avermaet and evans they are much better in bmc from lotto

 

[Cobblestoned]

Just 509 hours 12 min 30 sec to go

Can't wait for Giroday.

 

[sky forever]

I would love to see Anton or Nibali win the Giro. However, I just don't see anyone beating Contador.

 

[The Hitch]

Just for the record.

If you read the thread you will see that covered many many times.

Meanwhile, for 2012 is rumoured an mtf here

Jesus christ, that looks worse than the Zoncolan no?