Official Alberto Contador hearing thread

[sniper]

do it the armstrong way

yes, laflorecita and other aldirto fans, calm your nerves, little doubt that AC is going to be let off the hook.
AC hasn't been nervous either. He already knew a couple of weeks ago.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Well my reading from it is that when a case is so long and protracted as this one it can actually help the rider involved. The leaks to the media and the various expert views from different people over a long period only goes on to confuse the judging panel and give claims to an unfair hearing. For me they have to be 100% certain he is guilty to hand down a ban. Just look at these 2 legal experts on Velonation who have had dealings with CAS and they cant make their minds up and are just as indecisive as the rest of us. The judging panel even had to delay the decision a couple of weeks ago coz they wanted to make sure their decision was totally bullet proof and not leave anything open to be seized upon.

I hope you/they're right.

 

[LaFlorecita]

yes, laflorecita and other alberto fans, calm your nerves, little doubt that AC is going to be let off the hook.
AC hasn't been nervous either. He already knew a couple of weeks ago.

One thing that makes me wonder... if he already knew the decision a few weeks ago, why is he still going back home this evening to -presumably- be together with his family when the decision comes out?

 

[sniper]

One thing that makes me wonder... if he already knew the decision a few weeks ago, why is he still going back home this evening to -presumably- be together with his family when the decision comes out?

to celebrate I guess?

 

[LaFlorecita]

to celebrate I guess?

You would think that if he already knows, he has celebrated too.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Rumours about a 6 month ban, rumours about a one year ban... This is killing me.

 

[hrotha]

Rumours about a 6 month ban, rumours about a one year ban... This is killing me.

Lol, a 6 month ban, now that'd be something they'd pull out of their asses in an attempt to keep everybody happy (or not too angry). Rules be damned.

 

[The Hitch]

little doubt that AC is going to be let off the hook.
AC hasn't been nervous either. He already knew a couple of weeks ago.

Source?

You act like someone who knows what they are taking about the way you again and again and guarantee that he will be cleared. And you've interrupted many an attempt at a discussion, like here, by assuring posters that there is nothing to discuss because he will definitely be cleared.

so could you let me in on your sources please ?

 

[airstream]

LaFlorecita, breathe deeper. Alberto took his main victory by riding during all previous season and nobody will take away his winnings. Even if it is a ban, he'll be able to start the Tour or no?

 

[LaFlorecita]

LaFlorecita, breathe deeper. Alberto took his main victory by riding during all previous season and nobody will take away his winnings. Even if it is a ban, he'll be able to start the Tour or no?

Of course he won't be able to start.

And besides, there is so much more to it than not being able to start.

 

[sniper]

Source?

You act like someone who knows what they are taking about the way you again and again and guarantee that he will be cleared. And you've interrupted many an attempt at a discussion, like here, by assuring posters that there is nothing to discuss because he will definitely be cleared.

so could you let me in on your sources please ?

for sure, i've been clear about this: I think he's getting off and that he already knows that he is getting off. but I'm not guaranteeing anything.
so gimme a break hitch. i've not been nasty to you have i?
and what discussion did i interrupt?
laflorecita expressing her nerves? profound discussion indeed.
anyway, i'll be the last to try and thumb off discussions. I wouldn't even be able to let alone be willing to do that. I enjoy the clinic too much.

 

[LaFlorecita]

for sure, i've been clear about this: I think he's getting off and that he already knows that he is getting off. but I'm not guaranteeing anything.
so gimme a break hitch. i've not been nasty to you have i?
and what discussion did i interrupt?
laflorecita expressing her nerves? profound discussion indeed.
anyway, i'll be the last to try and thumb off discussions. I wouldn't even be able to let alone be willing to do that. I enjoy the clinic too much.

Already got the champagne ready?

 

[sniper]

Already got the champagne ready?

i like an honest, open and dedicated fan like you.
better than many of the opaque, covert LA fans.

anyway, Utrecht is nice. I live in Leiden myself.
Alphen aan den Rijn lies exactly in the middle, so we could meet there tomorrow, comfort one another

 

[LaFlorecita]

Where did sniper's post go?

 

[Nilsson]

If the rumors (apparently coming from a Dutch journalist) are true, it would be a very strange decision. It would be made-up and not comply with any rules or case-law. It should be all or nothing.

A good mean value would probably seem appropriate to some, but in my opinion it would be the only outcome which is undesirable and by definition incorrect...

 

[LaFlorecita]

If the rumors (apparently coming from a Dutch journalist) are true, it would be a very strange decision. It would be made-up and not comply with any rules or case-law. It should be all or nothing.

A good mean value would probably seem appropriate to some, but in my opinion it would be the only outcome which is undesirable and by definition incorrect...

I still have yet to figure out who this mysterious "Dutch journalist" is.

I would find a 6 month ban, or 1 year, a complete farce. Actually, everything else than total clearance is just that.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sniper? Why did you delete your post?

 

[Nilsson]

I still have yet to figure out who this mysterious "Dutch journalist" is.

It looks like hearsay to me, without an actual source. According to the guy that published the rumor it's Danny Nelissen who heard it from Raymond Kerckhoffs. We better wait for the actual verdict, if you ask me...

 

[LaFlorecita]

It looks like hearsay to me, without an actual source. According to the guy that published the rumor it's Danny Nelissen who heard it from Raymond Kerckhoffs. We better wait for the actual verdict, if you ask me...

Supposedly that journo overheard the panel..? So they didn't actually tell him, right? (If it's true)

 

[LaFlorecita]

I like this a whole lot better:

Other rumours say that the Spaniard already has been told that he will be cleared.

From CN.com

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

I like this a whole lot better:

From CN.com

lol

They probably got that from that forum post from a while ago. It's CN.com, after all. Everything points to a ban.

 

[LaFlorecita]

lol

They probably got that from that forum post from a while ago. It's CN.com, after all. Everything points to a ban.

FU
.......................

 

[sashimono]

Isn't it about time for another postponement? CAS?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I have a confession to make: I want Alberto cleared of doping charges. He won me over so thoroughly during last year’s Giro and seems so dedicated to cycling, that the thought of not seeing him in the peloton makes me sad. Moreover, I’ve come to like him and want him to be innocent. I don’t want his past podium wins to be nullified. I don’t want him shamed. I don’t want him pulled from the peloton. But this side of me that has come to love Bert wars with the side of me that says justice must be done- for no matter how that clenbuteral got in his system, it was there. And according to the rules (no matter how right or wrong they might be), if the drug is there, a ban must be served. The eternal optimist and Bertie lover in me wants to believe he is not a doper. And maybe it’s naive of me, but I do think he’s clean. But the fact of the matter is that clen was found in his system and unless he can prove how it got there, he should serve a punishment. But. That doesn’t stop me from wanting him to be cleared.

(http://masteringtheuphillshift.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/confession/)

This is exactly how I feel, except for the justice must be done part.

 

[Sciocco]

(http://masteringtheuphillshift.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/confession/)

This is exactly how I feel, except for the justice must be done part.

Yea, he is a lot of fun to watch.