Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

[Jack Ruby]

One record that may stand the test of time:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ance-armstrong-doping-tour-de-france/1625773/

"If the 1,000 pages from one of those two agencies has it right, then the evidence suggests Armstrong actually did have a single positive doping test, after the 2001 Tour of Switzerland. If that were true, that constitute a lie about a lie about a lie wrapped in a lie. Which might set a record that can not be expunged."

 

[cineteq]

Lance will never come clean. This looks like a real "Nuremberg trial of cycling", with proper cycling-war criminals that don't admit any wrongdoing despite a mountain of evidence.

He might never admit it, but a ringleader should go to jail for criminal activities.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

at my level. and the spelling is empathy. I always knew he doped and thought and still do have some thoughts on why he kept his secret

The spelling is correct. Google it.

 

[ChrisE]

Lance will never come clean. This looks like a real "Nuremberg trial of cycling", with proper cycling-war criminals that don't admit any wrongdoing despite a mountain of evidence.

I'm not so sure at this point, can you imagine what is going thru his mind right about now? IMO if he did confess, he could recover going forward.

One thing that is surely holding him back is any reopening of the federal case if he did confess.

 

[thehog]

What's up with creepy Lance texting stuff to Levi's wife?

"Run, don't walk" - "Are you in CA" knowing Levi was in Europe.

What's he up to?

 

[TheEnoculator]

What's up with creepy Lance texting stuff to Levi's wife?

"Run, don't walk" - "Are you in CA" knowing Levi was in Europe.

What's he up to?

Where'd you get this information from?

 

[thehog]

Where'd you get this information from?

Creepy Lance: pp. 150

As set forth in his affidavit, after Mr. Leipheimer was subpoenaed and testified truthfully to a federal grand jury in a case involving Mr. Armstrong, in the course of a dinner at which Mr. Armstrong was seated next to Mr. Leipheimer, Mr. Armstrong sent a text message to Mr. Leipheimer’s wife stating, “run don’t walk.” As Mr. Armstrong had not communicated with Mr. Leipheimer’s wife in several years, this message felt threatening to her.

Thereafter, Mr. Leipheimer returned to the RadioShack cycling team, which Mr. Armstrong had participated in founding, in order to compete during the 2011 season as Mr. Leipheimer was under contract with the RadioShack team for that season. During the course of the 2011 cycling season Mr. Leipheimer experienced a number of threatening and intimidating actions from one or more team employees, including comments such as, “I never forget. One day I will pay back.” Mr. Leipheimer also received information that the Team Director Johan Bruyneel had stated that Mr. Leipheimer would not be re-signed by the RadioShack team because Mr. Leipheimer “had testified to the grand jury in the Lance Armstrong investigation.”

During the 2012 Tour de France, and shortly after Mr. Leipheimer was interviewed by USADA’s General Counsel in connection with this proceeding, Mr. Leipheimer’s wife received another text from Mr. Armstrong asking, “Are you in CA?” Due to the timing of the message, the fact that Mr. Armstrong was well aware that Mr. Leipheimer was out of the country and competing in the Tour de France, and as Mr. Leipheimer’s wife had not received a text from Mr. Armstrong since the time of the prior intimidating text, Mr. Leipheimer’s wife found the communication to be disturbing and concerning.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Here's another great article from yahoo.com....gotta love this line here:


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/11-teammates-testified-case-against-153414292--spt.html

The world's most famous cyclist said he wanted to see the hard evidence that he was a doper. The agency gave him that, too: About 200 pages filled with vivid details - from the hotel rooms riders transformed into makeshift blood-transfusion centers to the way Armstrong's ex-wife rolled cortisone pills into foil and handed them out to all the cyclists.

They sure the heck did Wonderboy.......you got what you wanted......now you're career is OVER ******bag!!!

 

[BroDeal]

Best news article headline yet: "Jerry Sandusky & Lance Armstrong remain in denial amidst allegations"

http://www.examiner.com/article/jerry-sandusky-lance-armstrong-remain-denial-amidst-allegations

There is a pic of Sandusky being led around in handcuffs.

 

[thehog]

Best news article headline yet: "Jerry Sandusky & Lance Armstrong remain in denial amidst allegations"

http://www.examiner.com/article/jerry-sandusky-lance-armstrong-remain-denial-amidst-allegations

There is a pic of Sandusky being led around in handcuffs.

Picture here:

 

[thehog]

Nike doing the right thing.

http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks...ng.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[mr. tibbs]

Nike doing the right thing.

http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks...ng.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Oh man the comments section. NYTimes is just as bad. I can't believe these people. They're saying things like "where are the failed tests?", not realizing that--if they read the ****ing report (instead of Fabiani's PR stuff)--they'd see that there are TWO failed tests, and that the techniques for ensuring non-positives are all well-documented.

Good ol' US public. Meat sandwiches. Give us the cliffs notes and don't bother about details. Body language and pathos can turn the tide of a presidential campaign, so what role can logic and reasoning play in a discussion of a heavily dogmatized athlete-icon?

 

[thehog]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8487169/usada-report-lance-armstrong-end-debate-whether-doped

Case closed. Bonnie D.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8487169/usada-report-lance-armstrong-end-debate-whether-doped

Case closed. Bonnie D.

Sally.....Sally.......Sally....where are you.....peekabooo.....Sally Jenkins......?

 

[Merckx index]

Sally.....Sally.......Sally....where are you.....peekabooo.....Sally Jenkins......?

Yeah, I would love to hear how Sally spins this.

Best news article headline yet: "Jerry Sandusky & Lance Armstrong remain in denial amidst allegations"

http://www.examiner.com/article/jerry-sandusky-lance-armstrong-remain-denial-amidst-allegations

There is a pic of Sandusky being led around in handcuffs.

Make sure Palmerq sees this, so he can send a warning to the author for using an inappropriate analogy.

LA greatest sports fraud ever

And this:

This level of lying would belong in a museum of lying, in the lobby of any lying hall of fame (which probably would be listed under a false address). We all have lied, but you would have to feel awe at this level of lying – at its length, breadth and width, at its doggedness.

Followed by my favorite line to come out of all of this:

Most lying gives up after a while. This strain wouldn't quit.

And this:

You will be told that none of this matters, because it all allegedly took place so long ago, and everyone supposedly does it anyway. Here's why it matters: Whenever there's a doping scandal—not just in cycling, but in any sport—there's this usual charade in which the accused party either denies the allegation, or accepts guilt, and regardless of the answer, the whole event gets distilled into a lazy, sole-actor scenario in which sketchy drugs were obtained from shadowy sources, and there's no effort to understand the culture or institutional pressure from which such decisions are made. What Usada has alleged here is not a couple of newbies passing a needle—it's an elaborate system designed to get an edge, endorsed and abetted by coaches and doctors. And what these riders are truly agitated about in their confessions are not the syringes and substances, or even Armstrong, but an environment in which doping felt compulsory to survive, and silence is expected. That is how a sport develops and perpetuates a drug problem, and testing is clearly not the answer, even now. An entire culture must be broken. This report is the biggest step in the history of cycling.

Usada will get blasted as unconstitutional and obsessive and a waste of taxpayer money, as if an alleged systematic doping program partly paid for with taxpayer money under the umbrella of the United States Postal Service isn't a hundred times worse. Surely there will be challenges to Usada's authority as the case now goes to the UCI, the sport's governing body. It's tempting to see this as another ugly day for cycling, but it's not. This is what honesty often looks like: messy and painful. This is why Wednesday felt like a race of truth. The strongest riders won.

 

[thehog]

Good timing.

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[Microchip]

Printed Newspapers

Thought that there'd be much more front page coverage than I saw; however, these images are from the Newseum website and most likely represent only a fraction of the printed periodicals out there.

A couple of items have got lost due to reducing the size.

 

[thehog]

How long before Lance gets fed up with people pretending they had no association with his doping and he throws then under the proverbial bus?

Vedruggin and Yates are going to get shot by Lance.

 

[Page Mill Masochist]

Nike doing the right thing.

http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks...ng.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Mike Lupica of the New York Daily News calls out Nike.

"The evidence also mandates that Armstrong’s top sponsors, companies like Nike and Anheuser-Busch, must cut him loose to uphold corporate responsibility. He is a fake who abused the public trust. Is that what they stand for?"

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/world-record-dope-article-1.1179680

 

[veganrob]

Mike Lupica of the New York Daily News calls out Nike.

"The evidence also mandates that Armstrong’s top sponsors, companies like Nike and Anheuser-Busch, must cut him loose to uphold corporate responsibility. He is a fake who abused the public trust. Is that what they stand for?"

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/world-record-dope-article-1.1179680

Well Annheiser-Busch could be considered fake beer

 

[MarkvW]

Well, Lance's divorce from cycling is almost final.

Criminal charges against Lance related to doping? Itsnotgonnahappen.

Qui Tam? Well, Floyd's not yapping his big mouth, and that's a good sign because he must think he has something to lose.

SCA? I hope they sue Lance. I want to see how Lance performs when he is asked to affirm or deny each and every tiny little fact in the USADA report, under oath. THAT would be priceless!

Sally Jenkins' "I was betrayed by Lance" article? It's inevitable. I'm hoping it's so good it makes me cry.

One thing I can be sure of: The filthy and corrupt world of Pro Cycling is never gonna change. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss . . .

 

[MatParker117]

Here's a quote from the Fraud in 05:

"I'll say to the people who don't believe, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles."

I can't help but laugh

 

[greenhulk]

2003 Stage to Luz Ardiden. Noticed a very prominent bruise on the inside of the right elbow 5:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEqQW1-casM&feature=related

 

[AcademyCC]

Every interview you had to sit through. Watching, listening and waiting for lies. Its over. Over!

 

[D-Queued]

Mike Lupica of the New York Daily News calls out Nike.

"The evidence also mandates that Armstrong’s top sponsors, companies like Nike and Anheuser-Busch, must cut him loose to uphold corporate responsibility. He is a fake who abused the public trust. Is that what they stand for?"

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/world-record-dope-article-1.1179680

Exactly.

And exactly as already pointed out to Nike, their stance on Lance is in violation of their 'Inside the Lines' Code of Ethics. Nike's continued support of Lance underscores that they are actively lying to their employees, customers, suppliers and shareholders.

Thank you for starting this thread!!

As noted in the mongo-Thread, I sent the following letter to Nike:

I Just Did It, and sent the following to Nike at Investor.Relations@nike.com:


Subject: Armstrong reveals lie on Nike ‘Inside the Lines’ Code of Ethics

Dear Nike,

By so quickly responding to Lance Armstrong’s acceptance of his willful cheating with a pledge of ongoing support within barely 12 hours, Nike Inc. has exposed its own charade on fostering excellence or any commitment to ethics whatsoever.

Please allow me to report a potential violation of the law and a violation of Nike’s code of ethics.

Unfortunately, however, I do not expect anyone at Nike will pay any attention to this as Nike has just broadcast to the world that it does not honor its own ‘Inside the Lines’ code of ethics.

The evidence of doping and cheating was so overwhelming that the great contestant Lance Armstrong elected to not contest the obvious and inevitable in the USADA case. Lance Armstrong is now the biggest cheat in sport.

Nike’s re-affirmed support for Lance Armstrong, less than 12 hours after Lance accepted his lifetime ban is appalling and represents Nike’s completely hollow commitment to excellence in sport, corporate governance and ethics in business. Your actions confirm that Lance doesn’t represent Nike. Rather, Lance’s cheating represents Nike.

This quick endorsement following his acceptance of guilt may go down in corporate history as the ultimate example of corporate PR mismanagement. Congratulations on making #1.

Just as Lance once encouraged a teammate to run like he stole something, it is now obvious that ‘Just Do It’ must be regarded as an incitement to cheat.

You should be ashamed and Steve Prefontaine must be rolling in his grave.

For my part, I will never knowingly purchase another Nike product, or product from one of your affiliates Cole Haan, Converse, Hurley, Jordan Brand, Nike Golf, or Umbro for the rest of my life.

Yours truly,

I would encourage everyone to send their own letter to Nike.

Please note that the reference to Steve Prefontaine has relevance to the ethics upon which Nike was founded.

'Pre' was famous for not wanting to cheat himself. He would not accept a win if he had to draft behind others or not provide his own maximum performance.

'Pre' was the first athlete sponsored by Nike.

To go from a 'Pre' vision of not cheating yourself, to Lance who is the sporting world's biggest ever cheat completely discards and disregards where Nike came from.

Dave.