Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

[TheEnoculator]

It sends cold shivers up and down my spine. The unthinkable happened. Now i think he will confess. Of course with lots of excusses and blaming others. But he´ll do it, to save (a little bit) face.

Confession is definitely possible now. Remember that his excuse for not fighting the USADA charges was because he wanted to focus on his cancer work, so the fact that he stepped down as chairman of his life's work shows that his guilt is starting to take hold.

I wouldn't be surprised if the confession will come sometime soon.

 

[fatandfast]

He WILL confess. At one point it'll be more profitable for him to confess than to keep lying, and at the current rate it won't take him more than a couple of years.

If pop culture is any sample of how people feel,SNL,Daily Show,Leno,Conan,ect . Armstrong better confess and fast. He has a real chance to do an end around and attach his wagon with everybody else. They will all have the same reason, from Hamilton,Barry,White,Hincapie, we all did it is better than continuing on this solo path. Lance has a more compelling reason than any of these other guys to have doped. He needs to really push the "I did it for the kids" thing.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Confession is definitely possible now. Remember that his excuse for not fighting the USADA charges was because he wanted to focus on his cancer work, so the fact that he stepped down as chairman of his life's work shows that his guilt is starting to take hold.

I wouldn't be surprised if the confession will come sometime soon.

I hope his confession comes before the UCI deadline. Then Heini has no choice. I am just dreaming.... but hey, everthing that happened the past couple of months was like a dream come true.

 

[luckyboy]

Nike continues supporting Livestrong, Lance stays on the board of Livestrong

 

[hrotha]

If pop culture is any sample of how people feel,SNL,Daily Show,Leno,Conan,ect . Armstrong better confess and fast. He has a real chance to do an end around and attach his wagon with everybody else. They will all have the same reason, from Hamilton,Barry,White,Hincapie, we all did it is better than continuing on this solo path. Lance has a more compelling reason than any of these other guys to have doped. He needs to really push the "I did it for the kids" thing.

Did The Daily Show talk about the Armstrong thing? Damn, I missed it. Got a link or a date?

 

[TheEnoculator]

He WILL confess. At one point it'll be more profitable for him to confess than to keep lying, and at the current rate it won't take him more than a couple of years.

Couple years? You really think so? USADA's report was released just a week ago, and we already had Nike going 180 within a week after more than a decade's partnership. Him stepping down as Livestrong chairman also speaks volume because Livestrong was the excuse Armstrong used to not fight USADA.

This is just snowballing faster than an avalanche. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working on a confession right now with his lawyers.

 

[the asian]

Indeed the unthinkable act of Lance confessing might happen soon.

I don't think he'll rat out UCI, but rather try and paint him as a victim of Cycling's doping culture and that he did what was an evil necessity.

 

[unclem0nty]

Yep, it's not too much of a stretch now to imagine Armstrong releasing some kind of statement along the lines of those issued by Danielson, Leipheimer et al last week.

Big-up the innocent, boyhood love-of-cycling guff so people might (might) sympathise with the evil, corrosive influence of the "environment he found himself in"... plus of course playing the Big C card: "Perhaps I just tried too hard to stick it to cancer."

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I think he's working on a confession right now with his lawyers.

Exactly the same run trou my mind. It will take them a couple of days. Remember they also have to talk to SCA before, for a possible setting of the case. After that he´ll confess.

 

[ValleyFlowers]

Lance Armstrong stepping down as chairman of his Livestrong cancer charity

i could not care less. it was always an abused entity to cover up his frauds.

You should care more. Not everyone understands where the foundation fits into the 'whole picture'.
This might start to open some eyes, maybe even more eyes, than Lance loosing Nike sponsorship.


Livestrong taking control of the global conversation
"On Saturday, more than 100,000 American Football fans, and millions of TV viewers on ABC, will laud the cyclist, and his eponymous foundation, at the start of the second quarter of the College game between Baylor and the University of Texas. The entire student section, which seats 17,000, will simultaneously don specially designed Nike shirts, promoting Armstrong's Livestrong brand."

I wonder if they have a 'Plan B'?

His 'cancer shield' is about to show some cracks in a very public way, I do believe.

 

[TheEnoculator]

Indeed the unthinkable act of Lance confessing might happen soon.

I don't think he'll rat out UCI, but rather try and paint him as a victim of Cycling's doping culture and that he did what was an evil necessity.

Agreed. If LA confesses, it'll be very half-assed. He won't admit to threatening and bullying of his teammates and their wives. He won't admit to trafficking drugs and coercing others to dope.

He'll just paint himself as an ordinary doper. Don't forget the guy's a sociopath.

 

[hrotha]

Couple years? You really think so? USADA's report was released just a week ago, and we already had Nike going 180 within a week after more than a decade's partnership. Him stepping down as Livestrong chairman also speaks volume because Livestrong was the excuse Armstrong used to not fight USADA.

This is just snowballing faster than an avalanche. I wouldn't be surprised if he's working on a confession right now with his lawyers.

Well, I imagine there's some lawsuits coming, with lots of LA's money at the stake. It would be good for his image to confess now, but not for his pocket.

 

[thehog]

Agreed. If LA confesses, it'll be very half-assed. He won't admit to threatening and bullying of his teammates and their wives. He won't admit to trafficking drugs and coercing others to dope.

He'll just paint himself as an ordinary doper. Don't forget the guy's a sociopath.

Perjury. He won't be confessing to anything.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

After he confesses, i´ll leave it at that. I´ll have found complete peace. I am very happy with that. I don´t care how many millions he saved. The book would be closed for me.

 

[laughingcavalier]

He's got to confess now, surely.
I can't believe Lance didn't confess when USADA closed in.
How could he possibly think he could get away with it then?
I can only believe it is the financial liability that has held him back from confessing, as no decent PR adviser could have been telling him to keep on wiht the omerta. He's lost all hope of walking away with any money from anyone who has a contract that allows them to claim it back.

Does Nike's contract say "Lance will not take drugs"? And if not, why isn't that a standard part of sporting sponsorship contracts?

PS To log in to make this post I clicked on forgot password.
One of the verifying questions is:
Did Lance Armstrong win the TdF?
Fairly reasonably I answered no.
Apparently that was the wrong answer. LOL

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Did The Daily Show talk about the Armstrong thing? Damn, I missed it. Got a link or a date?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/t...ce-armstrong--****-chugging---farm-animal-sex

 

[Radway]

Would confessing open up possibilities of several lawsuits?

Livestrong.com is tied to the success of Livestrong.org; I would guess that he stepped down as chairman of Livestrong.org so as to mitigate the negative consequences to Livestrong.com.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

PS To log in to make this post I clicked on forgot password.
One of the verifying questions is:
Did Lance Armstrong win the TdF?
Fairly reasonably I answered no.
Apparently that was the wrong answer. LOL

LOL too. I think cyclingnews can´t follow the tempo of this nuclear meltdown. This chain reaction is happening just too fast.

 

[TheEnoculator]

Perjury. He won't be confessing to anything.

I think he will use his family as reason that he can't hide anymore, perjury or not. He will go through what Barry Bonds did, and he will be convicted of perjury, though I don't think he'll go to jail, some kind of deal will be reached. But for the sake of his family and to salvage some kind of dignity for his kids, he should confess NOW.

 

[cineteq]

After he confesses, i´ll leave it at that. I´ll have found complete peace. I am very happy with that. I don´t care how many millions he saved. The book would be closed for me.

It's a lot of anger in your words. Does he really need to confess? He didn't save anyone, his cheating 'helped' cancer sufferers save themselves.

 

[ebandit]

about time

about time to.............how nike could announce we have asked lance re usada sanction and lance has stated his innocence so we are sticking with him

as though the cheating / lying was bad enough there was the bullying and intimidation too

i heard lance earned $7,500,000 / yr from nike............losing that is gonna hurt!

others will follow

 

[unclem0nty]

If he pays back SCA and makes some kind of confession, no matter how self-serving and bogus, I think public opinion will take that as closure.

Doubt there'd be much interest in pursuing him for perjury.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

It's a lot of anger in your words. Does he really need to confess? He didn't save anyone, his cheating 'helped' cancer sufferers save themselves.

Sorry for the missunderstanding. I meant i don´t care how many millions of dollars he saved for himself.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I'll believe he confesses when I see it. He's already finished. A confession won't do him much good. If people are thinking he will do it because it will allow him some sort of normalcy, or be able to give interviews without being hounded, I don't see it. Any interviewer worth their weight in salt would tear into him about the endless stream of lying, the intimidation of others, the bribes, surviving cancer and doping anyway, etc, etc.

The only reason he would confess is if he knew he could get further ahead by doing so. But the toothpaste isnt going back into the tube.

If you think he is going to confess because he has an moral conscience, you haven't been following very closely.

 

[workingclasshero]

PS To log in to make this post I clicked on forgot password.
One of the verifying questions is:
Did Lance Armstrong win the TdF?
Fairly reasonably I answered no.
Apparently that was the wrong answer. LOL

highly amusing