Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

[Microchip]

" ... and that the UCI has publicly said there were 215 tests? ... nope ... don't care about that either. I sooo do NOT care that I made the SEVEN on my arm a TEMPORARY tattoo. Do not care. Pffffffffffffft."

 

[DirtyWorks]

3) Those who contribute to Livestrong can hardly imagine their money is being spent on a campaign to undermine an anti-doping agency.

The first couple of attempts at debunking liveswrong certainly did not grab media consumers attention. If a journalist/publication were sufficiently enterprising, they'd write this story and it would drop like another 600lb bomb. Unfortunately, not enough of them out there in mainstream media.

No question in my mind it's another gift and the myth keeps on giving.

 

[Merckx index]

The Seven Stages of Fanboy Bereavement

1) LA is the greatest rider of all time, dominating a clean peloton while clean
2) The peloton was actually dirty as sin, he was the only one riding clean, but he still dominated it because of his superior talent, training and dedication, which provided greater performance enhancement than all the EPO in the world
3) Some people say he doped, but they are just lying, convicted scumbag former dopers
4) Some more people say he doped, but they are just lying, non-convicted scumbag former dopers
5) Even his best friend and confidante says he doped, but he was forced to lie and commit perjury in order to have his doping suspension reduced by a few months, post-retirement
6) Maybe he did dope, but they all did, it was a level playing field. Merckx doped, Hinault doped, nothing new here.
7) Who cares? Honestly? It was all in the past. Nobody even thinks about it any more. Let’s move on.

 

[BroDeal]

It is obvious that when Armstrong says that people got what they wanted, he never did anything in his life, blah blah blah, that he is very bitter about being stripped of his wins. It gives me a warm feeling, probably because I am a bad person.

 

[phanatic]

What was the time and date when he stopped caring?

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[amp300]

Another one from the Lava interview:



Lower fees and better swag bag? After Vaughters gets his MBA I hope they hire him to do some basic business math.

I can't imagine a Livestrong event will have a lower entry fee. Their over the top marketing, royalty fees to Survivor, mandatory donation to cancer research, and LA appearance fees alone will double the cost. And won't Edgar instead of Powerade at the aid stations drive up the cost? Oh, I guess we can save the USA Triathlon license fee because their races won't be sanctioned.

And a better swag bag has never been on my list of things I wanted out of a race. The best races I've done have had small entry fees <$10 (or even fat asses with no entry fees) with no t-shirt and no swag. Besides, I'd throw away the black and yellow t-shirt in a Livestrong swag bag.

It will be a $30 entry fee, but then a mandatory $100 dollar fee added on at checkout for "cancer". Then buried in the fine print will be how "some fee's will go to administrative salaries, awareness campaigns, private jet fuel, minion army to discredit clinic posters, new keypad for LA's blackberry etc".
You know the usual costs.

 

[Love the Scenery]

Oops

Get ready, USADA will give the case to the UCI this week.

Well, that didn't happen. High hopes for next week. And oh, that it may be made public all at the same time.

 

[AcademyCC]

OK just entertain this one. Has the Oprah moment passed? Is that option dead and buried?

If you think yes then when could Lance still have turned things around by a full admission?

Far fetched I know but could he still gain anything from coming clean?

 

[MarkvW]

OK just entertain this one. Has the Oprah moment passed? Is that option dead and buried?

If you think yes then when could Lance still have turned things around by a full admission?

Far fetched I know but could he still gain anything from coming clean?

We're nowhere near the Oprah moment yet. Everything has to settle down, and Lance has to convince himself that self-abasement is to his economic advantage.

If Lance really is a sociopath, as you hard-core haters believe, he'll have no problem changing tracks and trying to make money off of his "redemption."

The Rise-Fall-Redemption Storyline is Lance's fate. He cannot escape it.

 

[Berzin]

I call for a moratorium on all predictions having to do with the timeline of events in this matter going forward.

 

[trailrunner]

OK just entertain this one. Has the Oprah moment passed? Is that option dead and buried?

Not at all. In a year or two from now when people have forgotten him, he'll use his confession on Oprah as a publicity stunt to reinvigorate his image and reinvent himself.

 

[Bosco10]

Well, Oprah ended her show last year, but maybe she could come out of retirement and do a "Lance Has Something to Tell Us" special. That would be a trip.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

We're nowhere near the Oprah moment yet. Everything has to settle down, and Lance has to convince himself that self-abasement is to his economic advantage.

If Lance really is a sociopath, as you hard-core haters believe, he'll have no problem changing tracks and trying to make money off of his "redemption."

The Rise-Fall-Redemption Storyline is Lance's fate. He cannot escape it.

Still using the haters card Mark - see peoples personalities will always end up for people to see.

Lance is not a sociopath, he has a narcissist personality. The subtle difference is that he will do what he feels is best to keep his (diminished) legacy alive.
One thing can be guaranteed is that there will never be a sincere confession and apology.

 

[TheEnoculator]

So Armstrong still uses that "let's move on" argument.

First, no innocent person would EVER say, "let's move on." An innocent person fights tooth and nail until the day he dies to clear his name of any horrible accusations, no matter how long it takes.

Second, if I could use the same argument, I could go sell drugs to kids and later on said to the cops, "why live in the past? Let's move on."

What a piece of human trash. He truly doesn't deserve any of his "wins".

 

[veganrob]

Well, that didn't happen. High hopes for next week. And oh, that it may be made public all at the same time.

How do you know it didn't happen?

 

[mewmewmew13]

So Armstrong still uses that "let's move on" argument.

First, no innocent person would EVER say, "let's move on." An innocent person fights tooth and nail until the day he dies to clear his name of any horrible accusations, no matter how long it takes.

Second, if I could use the same argument, I could go sell drugs to kids and later on said to the cops, "why live in the past? Let's move on."

What a piece of human trash. He truly doesn't deserve any of his "wins".

You are so right! This is just nonsense and he thinks he sounds so casual , but we all know the mountain of poo that is looming over him!

 

[TubularBills]

You are so right! This is just nonsense and he thinks he sounds so casual , but we all know the mountain of poo that is looming over him!

Hear Hear! Bring on the "Mountain of Poo!"

And let him bask and frolic in his fountain of narcissism.

~ Sir Hater

 

[PosterBill]

I agree, no more predictions on when it's released by the insiders lol...although starting monday they got a 1/5th shot at getting it right.

 

[datalore]

"I don’t care. Honestly. And I mean that." Really now...he does care.

Lance is taking his ball and going home.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Link?......of did you just make this number up?

The Fed case did not cost anything close to $40 million.

He made it up of course.

 

[86TDFWinner]

I wonder does Armstrong realise yet that he wont be invited back to the Tour in the future like Merckx to be fawned over, where he can tell everyone it was not like in the old days where men were men etc etc

He cant even do a Jake La Motta but that wont stop him from trying

I bet he tries getting his lawyers after the tour organizers if they dont invite him back, he's just the type of ******bag that would do something like that.

 

[piemonster]

If Lance really is a sociopath, as you hard-core haters believe, he'll have no problem changing tracks and trying to make money off of his "redemption."

Please don't use the term "Haters" it does nothing but discredit what you are trying to say

 

[The Hitch]

I wonder does Armstrong realise yet that he wont be invited back to the Tour in the future like Merckx to be fawned over, where he can tell everyone it was not like in the old days where men were men etc etc

He cant even do a Jake La Motta but that wont stop him from trying

Lance sees himself as above that anyway.

 

[Orinda8]

Still using the haters card Mark - see peoples personalities will always end up for people to see.

Lance is not a sociopath, he has a narcissist personality. The subtle difference is that he will do what he feels is best to keep his (diminished) legacy alive.
One thing can be guaranteed is that there will never be a sincere confession and apology.

Lance states that his conscious is clear; that is the definition of a sociopath, they do not have a conscious

 

[python]

Lance is not a sociopath, he has a narcissist personality..

he could be neither and he could be both, it is not easy to figure what psychology book definition his clearly fraudulent and self-obsessed actions fit.

to me only one thing counts - the repugnance of his actions.

his consistent attempts to sit on 2 chairs and to see the world and play it by his own rules which often contradict societal norms.

a case in point. my elderly family member has recently started to experience hallucinations and show other symptoms. we took her to one expert and she was diagnosed with one disease. we took her to another expert - another disease was diagnosed. a third medic spoke finally the truth - at the current state of medical knowledge it could be neither or all of the above or some mix of transitional stages. the key was me and my wife carefully studies the symptoms, not the umbrella definitions, and made a choice as to what drug to put her on. it quickly helped.

unlike the example above armstrong is incurable.