Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

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JMBeaushrimp

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thehog said:
We need a speculation thread!
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Jeebus! I thought we were in one...

Nice graphic showing WrongStrong, though. If that dude's not officially in politics, he sure should be. I haven't seen that sort of nepotistic, self-serving, inbred, conflict of interest goat-show outside of politics or high finance for a while...
 
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MarkvW said:
This tells me two things:
(1) Team Dopestrong will say anything--no matter how goofy--to defend Lance; and
(2) This is the best Team Dopestrong can come up with.

This line of argument is disingenuous and stupid at the same time. Is Lance's target audience easily deceived morons?
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Yes is the answer to all your questions. As much as it's stupid to you and me, it's the right thing to do for team Dopestrong. This is not about cycling any more than Livestrong is about cancer research. It's about deceiving customers to keep them loyal to the brand and keep opening their wallets.

Beyond this (short term) USADA case it's all about Livestrong, the Livestrong.com customer (sucked in via Livestrong.org) and the Lance endorsed brands. That's the guy/girl they need to keep loyal, and that's why Lance is still pony trotting around. And why he needs a sports event series to keep the brand alive beyond this "short term problem".

This Livestrong (and endorsed brand) customer is currently getting totally confused with what's in the news about Lance:

"Wow, did he really dope? Surely it's a witch hunt? Are any of these USADA allegations new? It's old stuff isn't it? Does it matter? But he's still doing the triathlons...? **** it's confusing! What, you are now telling me USADA is hiring big time tobacco lawyers?... That explains it... It's big dirty business Goliath trying to kill my little David cancer Jesus Messiah...."

All part of the game plan to keep the Livestrong (and endorsed brand) customer confused, ease him/her through this "noisy news time" by distracting the media signal. A new story angle every week, keeping interest up but reinforcing the same core message.

Expect more to come in the weeks ahead. All variations on a theme.

As much as this is all very interesting, what we need for cycling is a remaining focus on UCI complicity, and a cleaning up of UCI, so we can get back to enjoy watching our sport as we once did.

The day of reckoning is nigh and has been a long time in the waiting, but need to stay focused on what we want for the day after. A clean cycling administered by a competent sports administration...
 
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Watching 30X30 on ESPN about the running programs in the 80s, 90s you saw the precurser to more "sophisticated" PED programs. Two statements from Carl Lewis ring true today. The first: "I never wanted to work a real job, I wanted to be rich and famous". The second after whispers began and he responded in an interview: "drugs don't make an athlete go faster. We shouldn't be pointing fingers and saying this and that..." (paraphrased). Carl made more money than other track runners X 10 and apparently justified just about anything.
You aren't alone in thinking you've heard it all before....
 
sartain

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thehog said:
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Hog,

OUTSTANDING visual. You need to update it a bit, and add a banner for USAC, and don't forget to connect Jeff Garvey from Austin Ventures over to that as he also sat on the BOD there at one time (I don't think he still does though). Also, I have a hunch (but again, this is just a hunch) that there are probably some old VC links between TW and Austin Ventures from back in the dotcom days, but this would take a bit of work to dig up. Also, Och use to work a TW's firm at one time. The stink on this is just amazing!
 
D-Queued

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sartain said:
Hog,

OUTSTANDING visual. You need to update it a bit, and add a banner for USAC, and don't forget to connect Jeff Garvey from Austin Ventures over to that as he also sat on the BOD there at one time (I don't think he still does though). Also, I have a hunch (but again, this is just a hunch) that there are probably some old VC links between TW and Austin Ventures from back in the dotcom days, but this would take a bit of work to dig up. Also, Och use to work a TW's firm at one time. The stink on this is just amazing!
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Shouldn't CTS be on there somewhere?









That was a joke.

Dave.
 
mewmewmew13

mewmewmew13

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sartain said:
Hog,

OUTSTANDING visual. You need to update it a bit, and add a banner for USAC, and don't forget to connect Jeff Garvey from Austin Ventures over to that as he also sat on the BOD there at one time (I don't think he still does though). Also, I have a hunch (but again, this is just a hunch) that there are probably some old VC links between TW and Austin Ventures from back in the dotcom days, but this would take a bit of work to dig up. Also, Och use to work a TW's firm at one time. The stink on this is just amazing!
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Nice.
Anything involving Armstrong has a stench
 
thehog

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Oldman said:
Watching 30X30 on ESPN about the running programs in the 80s, 90s you saw the precurser to more "sophisticated" PED programs. Two statements from Carl Lewis ring true today. The first: "I never wanted to work a real job, I wanted to be rich and famous". The second after whispers began and he responded in an interview: "drugs don't make an athlete go faster. We shouldn't be pointing fingers and saying this and that..." (paraphrased). Carl made more money than other track runners X 10 and apparently justified just about anything.
You aren't alone in thinking you've heard it all before....
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Lewis is now a dribbling mess. Ominous signs.
 
thehog

thehog

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sartain said:
Hog,

OUTSTANDING visual. You need to update it a bit, and add a banner for USAC, and don't forget to connect Jeff Garvey from Austin Ventures over to that as he also sat on the BOD there at one time (I don't think he still does though). Also, I have a hunch (but again, this is just a hunch) that there are probably some old VC links between TW and Austin Ventures from back in the dotcom days, but this would take a bit of work to dig up. Also, Och use to work a TW's firm at one time. The stink on this is just amazing!
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I should point out this is not my work. But it's much impressive.
 
Dear Wiggo

Dear Wiggo

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mewmewmew13 said:
Wow hog!

Nice work
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sartain said:
Hog,

OUTSTANDING visual. You need to update it a bit, and add a banner for USAC, and don't forget to connect Jeff Garvey from Austin Ventures over to that as he also sat on the BOD there at one time (I don't think he still does though). Also, I have a hunch (but again, this is just a hunch) that there are probably some old VC links between TW and Austin Ventures from back in the dotcom days, but this would take a bit of work to dig up. Also, Och use to work a TW's firm at one time. The stink on this is just amazing!
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D-Queued said:
Shouldn't CTS be on there somewhere?

That was a joke.

Dave.
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thehog said:
I should point out this is not my work. But it's much impressive.
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Ah thehog....

Source of thehog's brilliant masterpiece: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/the-commercial-world-of-lance-armstrong


el oh el at the comment. "a lot of stuff". more like "a lot of people".
 
thirteen

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David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST
Many wish to know if report will be made public. In time, yes. In the meantime, USADA may release a summary this week. UCI need to fess up.
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does anyone believe UCI is really going to fess up?
 
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coinneach

Jul 22, 2011
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Breaking news

"The truth is out there: smoking gum may finally be catching up with Lance"

Oh no, sorry, that's from Sports Illustrated in October,2006:)
 
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