Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Benotti69]

Funny enough the documentary in its original form was a celebration of Comeback 2.0.

It was meant to chronicle the comeback to winning Tour.

It was meant to be a love in for Armstrong.

Enter stage right Floyd Landis.

So they had to change the premise which Armstrong agreed to make sure everyone knows what a nice guy he is.

I am curious to know if Armstrong is gonna make a buck or 2 from this movie.

Wouldn't surprise me if he was.

 

[Race Radio]

I am curious to know if Armstrong is gonna make a buck or 2 from this movie.

Wouldn't surprise me if he was.

He will not.

 

[Benotti69]

He will not.

So why did he do it?

Is this film not gonna be bad for Armstrong?

 

[Race Radio]

So why did he do it?

Is this film not gonna be bad for Armstrong?

He originally did it to promote his comeback. The film was edited and then it became clear to Alex a different story needed to be told. After Oprah Alex got Lance to talk to him for a few hours because he felt he was owed it after lance lied to him for so long. Lance is not happy with the film

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

He originally did it to promote his comeback. The film was edited and then it became clear to Alex a different story needed to be told. After Oprah Alex got Lance to talk to him for a few hours because he felt he was owed it after lance lied to him for so long. Lance is not happy with the film

With the messy legal aspect of this yet to be played out, there should be at least 1 more movie, a reality TV series, and a new range of 'home use' lie detectors.

 

[Race Radio]

With the messy legal aspect of this yet to be played out, there should be at least 1 more movie, a reality TV series, and a new range of 'home use' lie detectors.

I hope at least one of these has Honey Boo Boo's mom in it.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

I hope at least one of these has Honey Boo Boo's mom in it.

Thanks for ruining an already mediocre lunch.

 

[gooner]

More from the book.

Sheryl Crow was with Lance Armstrong when he went to receive an illicit blood transfusion and later told federal investigators about what she'd seen, according to a new book about the doping conspiracy that propelled Armstrong's cycling teams.

The musician accompanied Armstrong during a trip to Belgium in Armstrong's private jet for a 2004 procedure according to "Wheelmen," a book due out next Tuesday from Wall Street Journal reporters Reed Albergotti and Vanessa O'Connell.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/new-book-claims-crow-sang-feds-armstrong-article-1.1481152?

 

[Race Radio]

More from the book.



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/new-book-claims-crow-sang-feds-armstrong-article-1.1481152?

It will be an interesting book.

The "Charity" does not come off well. Not well at all. You know how some here joke about interns? That wasn't a joke

 

[Merckx index]

"Rather than try to hide the transfusion from her, Armstrong was completely open about it," the authors write. "He trusted that Crow would have no desire to tell the press or anyone else about the team's doping program. He explained that it was simply part of the sport - that all cyclists were doing the same thing."

I wonder how Crow feels about keeping silent about this all that time. If LA is such a fraud for cheating, then people like Crow were aiding and abetting a fraud.

The role of Armstrong's closest friends and supporters in perpetuating his deceptions is one of the central themes of the new book

A theme that richly deserves to be explored, IMO. For any kind of crime or infringement of rules, we recognize that people who knew what was going on and didn’t speak out are themselves guilty. If I were Crow, I’d be deeply ashamed of myself. But people have an almost infinite ability to rationalize, and I doubt that her silence bothers her in the slightest.

 

[frenchfry]

More from the book.



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/new-book-claims-crow-sang-feds-armstrong-article-1.1481152?

I love the title of the article:

"Sheryl Crow sang to feds about Lance... "

 

[frenchfry]

It will be an interesting book.

The "Charity" does not come off well. Not well at all. You know how some here joke about interns? That wasn't a joke

This is what I want to hear more about.

 

[Benotti69]

I wonder how Crow feels about keeping silent about this all that time. If LA is such a fraud for cheating, then people like Crow were aiding and abetting a fraud.

Crow lives in LalaLand as an rock star celebrity. That she talked to the Feds probably means she feels no guilt.

A theme that richly deserves to be explored, IMO. For any kind of crime or infringement of rules, we recognize that people who knew what was going on and didn’t speak out are themselves guilty. If I were Crow, I’d be deeply ashamed of myself. But people have an almost infinite ability to rationalize, and I doubt that her silence bothers her in the slightest.

There is a whole gang around Armstrong who knew, Ligget and Sherwin are 2 who need to hang their heads in shame.

 

[Benotti69]

This is what I want to hear more about.

I really hope it is the beginning of the end for this fake charity.

 

[darwin553]

We shouldn't lose sense of this aspect no matter what our stance on doping is. And even though he is a *** of the highest order, it has to be applied to Armstrong as well. Sometimes perspective in our criticism is needed.

Who says it isn't a ploy on his part to seek clemency from those in authoritative positions or even from your normal cycling observers? He's certainly capable of it

 

[D-Queued]

It will be an interesting book.

The "Charity" does not come off well. Not well at all. You know how some here joke about interns? That wasn't a joke

Tease.

Dave.

 

[RownhamHill]

You know how some here joke about interns? That wasn't a joke

Can someone remind me what the joke about interns was all about?

 

[Benotti69]

Can someone remind me what the joke about interns was all about?

The interns at lieStrong (and a PR agency) were trolling forums and comment sections pushing the "'we like our credibility", "never tested positive" and "too much good for too many" BS.

 

[D-Queued]

The interns at lieStrong (and a PR agency) were trolling forums and comment sections pushing the "'we like our credibility", "never tested positive" and "too much good for too many" BS.

And it became a running joke that everytime some newbie would show up fawning all over Lance, it must have have been because someone got out the whip at Liestrong or Public Strategies.

Because nobody in their right mind would sign up and make first posts that were so 'extreme' one way or the other. Due to apparent concerns over litigation, and freedom of speech, and even a (misguided) apparent desire for a 'balanced' dialog, the moderators here and elsewhere were reluctant to shut these folks down quickly. In fact, the opposite often appeared to be the case - particularly when it came to vacation invitations for those who got caught up trying to argue the BS.

The use of interns with their 'talking points' was also one of the techniques that Dopestrong employed to inflate the number of tests from 100ish to 500+, for example. Just get some dumb interns to post whatever you want, then use that information for your talking points.

While it was obvious, paid interns tended to be somewhat relentless until they were fully revealed.

Dave.

 

[frenchfry]

The interns at lieStrong (and a PR agency) were trolling forums and comment sections pushing the "'we like our credibility", "never tested positive" and "too much good for too many" BS.

This initiative was demonstrably positive for the cause of cancer "awareness" therefore funding by Liestrong was appropriate. Just like the lobbying by Liestrong to have American legislators intervene stop USADA's investigation.

Liestrong management had a ringside seat to the scam, they have no excuse. Worse, they aided, abetted and profited.

 

[blackcat]

So why did he do it?

Is this film not gonna be bad for Armstrong?

because HE WOULD HAVE made a truckload in the intangible marketing benefit to his profile and Q Rating/Score. Nike woulda then be paying him 8figures per when you pull in the Livestrong licencing that he was getting paid, more Trek stock, more more more, it would have contributed to.

Might have even got up the 2.0 ITs Not About the Bike feature film docudrama with MAtt Damon playing the Cancer Jesus. Stapleton's Armstrong apotheosis leitmotif

 

[RownhamHill]

The interns at lieStrong (and a PR agency) were trolling forums and comment sections pushing the "'we like our credibility", "never tested positive" and "too much good for too many" BS.

And it became a running joke that everytime some newbie would show up fawning all over Lance, it must have have been because someone got out the whip at Liestrong or Public Strategies.

Because nobody in their right mind would sign up and make first posts that were so 'extreme' one way or the other. Due to apparent concerns over litigation, and freedom of speech, and even a (misguided) apparent desire for a 'balanced' dialog, the moderators here and elsewhere were reluctant to shut these folks down quickly. In fact, the opposite often appeared to be the case - particularly when it came to vacation invitations for those who got caught up trying to argue the BS.

The use of interns with their 'talking points' was also one of the techniques that Dopestrong employed to inflate the number of tests from 100ish to 500+, for example. Just get some dumb interns to post whatever you want, then use that information for your talking points.

While it was obvious, paid interns tended to be somewhat relentless until they were fully revealed.

Dave.

Ahaa, it's all coming back to me now. Thanks for clarifying.

I must say, it's a depressingly prosaic revelation - I was hoping for more hookers and blow!

 

[frenchfry]

I was hoping for more hookers and blow!

Somehow I doubt that Sheryl Crow is going to be very forthcoming on that subject.

 

[Benotti69]

Somehow I doubt that Sheryl Crow is going to be very forthcoming on that subject.

10charac

 

[webvan]

So he would have been fine without the comeback? Dunno...I guess Landis wouldn't have asked him for a job and to help start the TOC but he would still have been desperate at some point and would have started "singing"...