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Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

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MacRoadie said:
Curiously, I didn't see the picture as an attempt at humor (although I can definitely see it in retrospect). I actually saw it as an illustration (proof?) of the dichotomy between how Lance portrays his financial and social condition and how he's actually living his life. The photo certainly doesn't convey a sense of financial or emotional despair, nor a sense of a contrite and repentive adult.

THIS..exactly. the point.
Who in their right mind under an extreme load of litigation and personal turmoil would show up in public like he does and still pretend that life for him is just "hangin' out"?..all the while acting like trash
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
THIS..exactly. the point.
Who in their right mind under an extreme load of litigation and personal turmoil would show up in public like he does and still pretend that life for him is just "hangin' out"?..all the while acting like trash

stupid is as stupid does.
 
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MacRoadie said:
...I actually saw it as an illustration (proof?) of the dichotomy between how Lance portrays his financial and social condition and how he's actually living his life. The photo certainly doesn't convey a sense of financial or emotional despair, [/B]nor a sense of a contrite and repentive adult.[/B]

^^^ This......
 
Alpe73 said:
Good post, Granville.

Yes, good thing SOMEONE is thinking about the children and not the subject of this thread featured in a photo. Whew!

I get what you are saying, but:
-the guy is a public figure
-the internet is no place to publish personal photos. This is what happens. And no one should be surprised or offended when it happens. Any expectation of privacy is unreasonable.
 
MacRoadie said:
Lance has been reading the Forum since the day it was started. He's been in and out of every thread about him since. He also knows who the Forum 12 and few of the rest of us who've been around awhile are, either through the industry or common acquaintances.

And no, that's not a misguided sense of self-importance or paranoia...

Hi Lance.

PS, Don't read the next post....

He may know who most of the 'ringleaders' are, but I don't think he knows who I am. He could, and we have crossed paths, but I don't think so. Obviously, a few folks posting here know who I am and in the Internet world it only takes the push of a button...

Floyd, on the other hand, put in a concerted effort to find out who I was during the FFF campaign.

And, as you note, these are just observations and not any sense of self-importance or paranoia.

I always figure that if my comments cannot stand on their own merit from an anonymous source, then they are less than worthless. Exposing my identity has no value if my observations and arguments are not sound.

Dave.
 
D-Queued said:
He may know who most of the 'ringleaders' are, but I don't think he knows who I am....few folks posting here know who I am and in the Internet world it only takes the push of a button.......

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hehe :D
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Yes, good thing SOMEONE is thinking about the children and not the subject of this thread featured in a photo. Whew!

I get what you are saying, but:
-the guy is a public figure
-the internet is no place to publish personal photos. This is what happens. And no one should be surprised or offended when it happens. Any expectation of privacy is unreasonable.

Agree with these statements and as a result I don't understand what all the fuss is.
 
MacRoadie said:
The photo certainly doesn't convey a sense of financial or emotional despair, nor a sense of a contrite and repentive adult.

That's not Wonderboy though. I've met the personality before and they are constantly calibrating their rank/image. A photo like that is okay. A photo floating around the Internet even hinting at any kind of despair would never be okay.

He's struggling with the now giant distance between his self image as "a champion" and the public image as a fraud. How? Hopefully with some professional help, but I doubt it. Denial and alcohol are common dead-end strategies.

He could be "a champion" but not like it's happening with the UCI trying to re-write history with that commission thing.
 
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kingjr said:

The guy admitted he cheated to all his wins in a country that values sporting heroes. He came back to the sport talking about only doing it for the 28million with cancer, BS, i thought people would say if he cheated in sport he is probably cheating our doantions.....all the lies, lies, lies over the years and people still keep giving money to a liar! It goes a long way to explaining how scientology suckered so many!
 
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How would you feel of one of the "New Generation" went motorpacing with Lance?

On one hand I can understand. It is just motorpacing. It can be a pain to find someone who can do it right. I image Lance knows what he is doing.....but the optics?

I am sure it will be dissected here when it happens
 
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Race Radio said:
How would you feel of one of the "New Generation" went motorpacing with Lance?

On one hand I can understand. It is just motorpacing. It can be a pain to find someone who can do it right. I image Lance knows what he is doing.....but the optics?

I am sure it will be dissected here when it happens

Motorpacing a cover for buying some hemasist?:rolleyes:

Nothing would surprise me in cycling.
 
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Benotti69 said:
Motorpacing a cover for buying some hemasist?:rolleyes:

Nothing would surprise me in cycling.

Ha :D I am sure some might see it that way. Gotta say I love motorpacing. It was my favorite kind of training. If Lance volunteered to drive the scooter I would likely take him up on it as good scooter drivers are hard to find
 
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Race Radio said:
How would you feel of one of the "New Generation" went motorpacing with Lance?

On one hand I can understand. It is just motorpacing. It can be a pain to find someone who can do it right. I image Lance knows what he is doing.....but the optics?

I am sure it will be dissected here when it happens

Depends if a camper van is following or not really :D
 
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Benotti69 said:
Still a lot of gullible people out there. Only 34%. Jeez i would expected 80%+..

It's not as if he's trousering appearance fees from them any more for showing up at 'events' now though. As having a missus in remission from c in the breast it's still a very noble charity and cause despite the former figurehead being a ponzi peddler.

Still as the old adage goes - people still want to believe in a lie no matter what proof is put in front of them. The blind sheep call conclusive proof supported by facts as conjecture or opinion :D
 
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Gavandope said:
It's not as if he's trousering appearance fees from them any more for showing up at 'events' now though. As having a missus in remission from c in the breast it's still a very noble charity and cause despite the former figurehead being a ponzi peddler.

Still as the old adage goes - people still want to believe in a lie no matter what proof is put in front of them. The blind sheep call conclusive proof supported by facts as conjecture or opinion :D

How do we know he is not trousering money from Livewrong? Maybe not appearance fees but other fees through other means are still possible.

It was never a noble charity. Plenty of really good cancer charities out there. Livewrong wasn't in the same universe as them.
 
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Benotti69 said:
How do we know he is not trousering money from Livewrong? Maybe not appearance fees but other fees through other means are still possible.

It was never a noble charity. Plenty of really good cancer charities out there. Livewrong wasn't in the same universe as them.

I seriously doubt he is - it would be an utter disaster for the charity if they dared to and the news broke out.

After seeing my missus in pieces after a horrendous e/c chemo course I can't not rate what a cancer charity does for those that need their help no matter who started the charity.

But I hold LA and his tight doping clique of associates who knew and abetted his fraud as the only people who deserve my disrespect and scorn - his charity workers who believed in him far more than anyone of us are bigger victims than we certainly were believing his words when our eyes knew he was lying through his teeth for years.
 
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Gavandope said:
I seriously doubt he is - it would be an utter disaster for the charity if they dared to and the news broke out.

It wasn't a disaster for the charity that they were funding his private jet!

................

But I hold LA and his tight doping clique of associates who knew and abetted his fraud as the only people who deserve my disrespect and scorn - his charity workers who believed in him far more than anyone of us are bigger victims than we certainly were believing his words when our eyes knew he was lying through his teeth for years.[/QUOTE]

Anyone who worked for LA after books like Lance to Landis was released dont deserve much in the way of sympathy.