Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

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Race Radio said:
Reed Albergotti and Vanessa O'Connell book "Wheelmen" is for sale in France. Note the new title

For those who do not speak French it is "Journey of a B@stard"

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martinvickers said:
And there was me thinking French was such a subtle language! :D

Armstrong is a major fan of salad tossing

http://www.examiner.com/article/april-macie-lance-armstrong-asked-me-to-perform-analingus-on-him
 
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Race Radio said:
Reed Albergotti and Vanessa O'Connell book "Wheelmen" is for sale in France. Note the new title

For those who do not speak French it is "Journey of a B@stard"

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What will the French call 'Cycle of Lies'..........:D
 
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Brutal article in the NYDN.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/disgraced-lance-cycles-article-1.1712270

Regarding SCA
Armstrong had been scheduled to give a deposition on Thursday, in which lawyers likely would have interrogated him about who assisted him in his historic two-wheel swindle...........
Fitzgerald gave the parties until March 14 to file arguments with the appeals court.

Macur also quotes an interview from June 6, 2013, in which Armstrong refuses to get specific about who in his inner circle knew about his teams’ systematic cheating. (The information matters because some of Armstrong’s associates are his co-defendants and some still fill influential positions in the sports world.)
“I ain’t no f---ing rat,” Armstrong tells Macur, adding more explicit language to describe the former teammates who cooperated with federal investigators and USADA

No rat perhaps, but Armstrong is an American citizen subject to the rule of law, so eventually he will be compelled to either testify in his own defense or voluntarily relinquish some more of the millions of dollars he amassed through a career built on chemical shortcuts, ruthless intimidation tactics and the exploited faith of an army of inspired fans.
 
RobbieCanuck said:
If the appeal is dismissed then a new date for the hearing before the SCA panel will be set and Armstrong will have to testify under oath. Then the SCA lawyer (Tillotson) will obviously raise the issue of Armstrongs perjury from his previous arbitration testimony (Nov. 11, 2005)

Thanks again for the clarification. I am certainly not a lawyer, is there a legal reason why no one has tried the guy for perjury?

There were probably some other perjury candidates from the same arbitration.
 
DirtyWorks said:
Thanks again for the clarification. I am certainly not a lawyer, is there a legal reason why no one has tried the guy for perjury?

Could be SOL.

DirtyWorks said:
There were probably some other perjury candidates from the same arbitration.

Stephanie McIlvain comes to mind. She's one of the more tragic figures in this sordid tale. Not only did Lance enthusiastically perjurer himself, he demanded others to do the same. The guy really was the "Al Capone of Cycling"
 
Armstrong had been scheduled to give a deposition on Thursday, in which lawyers likely would have interrogated him about who assisted him in his historic two-wheel swindle...........
Fitzgerald gave the parties until March 14 to file arguments with the appeals court.

Jebus! You'd think the legal system(and judges) would just be tired of this guy once and for all and give him a big screw you and not allow him to appeal anything.

Enough with the stall tactics.....
 
Bosco10 said:
Could be SOL.

Stephanie McIlvain comes to mind. She's one of the more tragic figures in this sordid tale. Not only did Lance enthusiastically perjurer himself, he demanded others to do the same.

And: Phil Knight, (The Trek ******bags), Christine Brennan:D, and the folks @ Michelob......(and MANY others).
 
DirtyWorks said:
Thanks again for the clarification. I am certainly not a lawyer, is there a legal reason why no one has tried the guy for perjury?

There were probably some other perjury candidates from the same arbitration.

I am a retired lawyer in Canada and therefore by definition under Canadian law no longer a lawyer. I was both a Crown Prosecutor (14 years) and a Defence Counsel (21 years") I don't know the law of perjury in Texas, nor am I offering any advice.

The Texas Penal Code provides two classes of perjury, one a Class A misdemeanor and the other a felony. These two crimes are defined as follows:


§ 37.02. PERJURY. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to deceive and with knowledge of the statement's meaning:
(1) he makes a false statement under oath or swears to
the truth of a false statement previously made and the statement is
required or authorized by law to be made under oath; or
(2) he makes a false unsworn declaration under Chapter
132, Civil Practice and Remedies Code.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

§ 37.03. AGGRAVATED PERJURY. (a) A person commits an offense if he commits perjury as defined in Section 37.02, and the false statement:
(1) is made during or in connection with an official
proceeding; and
(2) is material.
(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree.

What I don't know is whether or not testimony in an arbitration in Texas is subject to these laws. One would think so, otherwise there would be no point in taking evidence under oath at an arbitration (This is not advice, just a common sense observation).

However I understand there were two arbitration agreements governing the procedural and evidentiary rules at the SCA/Armstrong arbitration. I have not read those agreements so I do not know how they might impact a charge of perjury.

One of the interesting parts of section 37.03 is whether or not the arbitration hearing was an "official proceeding" A Texas lawyer could comment on that.

In my experience, the lawyers in an arbitration are more focused on settling the case, as opposed to concerning themselves with a bit of perjury. In addition I do not know the process of how Armstrong's perjury gets reported to law enforcement in Texas, i.e. does someone have to make a complaint to the police or the District Attorney's office or can these institutions initiate an investigation on their own?

Lastly there is the question of Statute of Limitations and whether or not the Nov. 11, 2005 testimony of Armstrong is beyond that.

I really have to defer to those who are experts in Texas law and hopefully a Texas attorney could elaborate and fix any misunderstandings I may have made.
 
RobbieCanuck said:
I am a retired lawyer in Canada and therefore by definition under Canadian law no longer a lawyer. I was both a Crown Prosecutor (14 years) and a Defence Counsel (21 years") I don't know the law of perjury in Texas, nor am I offering any advice.

Thank you again for another great explanation.
 
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RobbieCanuck said:
In my experience, the lawyers in an arbitration are more focused on settling the case, as opposed to concerning themselves with a bit of perjury.

This is essentially it. Being charged for perjury in a civil case, especially a arbitration, is very, very rare
 
RobbieCanuck said:
I am a retired lawyer in Canada and therefore by definition under Canadian law no longer a lawyer...

Thanks!

...from a layperson's view, it looks like the defense lawyers are busiest, and can make the most money, when their client is guilty as sin and everyone knows it.

Dave.