Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[BYOP88]

will you two get a thread?

hahahaha I read that as

Will you two get a bed

 

[the sceptic]

The power of the mewmewmew-derator in full force.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Lolololzzz

 

[thehog]

When Mew says stop, you stop

 

[Archibald]

... But I bet their CFO is. Money.

Why? Isn't armstrong going to be footing the bill for them in the end?



@Mewmewmew: bring back the fez

 

[Archibald]

@Mewmewmew13 - was scrolling through another thread and saw the fez back. You owe me a keyboard!

 

[thehog]

Thanks, I had always mistakenly thought he was their lawyer. Either way, barring some crazy ruling by the arbitrators, LA will paying SCA's legal fees.

I'll defer to Chewie but in the US the losing side does not pay costs. The American rule as it's known. Which is not the case in UK/Europe. Hence my opinion in relation to settlement fatigue.

I believe the original settlement agreed to pay Armstrong included his costs plus some additional "suffering". Note this was a settlement not an award for costs.

In 2006, SCA agreed to a $7.5 million settlement with Mr. Armstrong that included interest and attorney fees. But in 2012, following a ferocious battle with the U.S anti-doping agency, Mr. Armstrong was stripped of nearly all of his titles, including his Tour de France wins.

SCA now wants its money back for the 2002, 2003 and 2004 Tour wins, as well as legal costs. A lawyer for SCA says he hopes the original arbitration panel will impose sanctions against Mr. Armstrong, awarding it $12 million.

On Tuesday, the arbitration panel informed lawyers in the case that they had jurisdiction to decide any disputes between SCA, Mr. Armstrong, and Tailwind Sports, pertaining to the original case. That decision clears the way for a hearing.

So the 12m already includes costs. Which is a long shot by SCA.

 

[thehog]

Why? Isn't armstrong going to be footing the bill for them in the end?

See above.

 

[spetsa]

I'll defer to Chewie but in the US the losing side does not pay costs. The American rule as it's known. Which is not the case in UK/Europe. Hence my opinion in relation to settlement fatigue.

I believe the original settlement awarded to Armstrong included his costs plus some additional "suffering". Thus if there is an award the panel may decide to award costs plus the original 12m. And that's what Armstrong may appeal.

Or they may all just settle.

The legal system does not mandate the coverage of legal costs, but it will be asked for and awarded.

 

[thehog]

The legal system does not mandate the coverage of legal costs, but it will be asked for and awarded.

That is correct. It's rare that costs are awarded thus why SCA bundled up fees in the 12m. So I doubt they'll ask for anything other than the 12m.

So whatever they're burning though now they hope to get back. Or not.

They still take the risk of not getting 12m. That being the point.

There's one panelist who thought the hearing shouldn't have been re-opened. Slightly risky.

Wouldn't say slam dunk. But good odds. I'm sure the risk guys are doodling up the numbers on the back of a beer coaster as we speak.

 

[Race Radio]

Responses from both sides are due tomorrow. Bob has been fighting this for decade, an extra few weeks are not troubling him.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Responses from both sides are due tomorrow. Bob has been fighting this for decade, an extra few weeks are not troubling him.

The problem is what is going to be said in the respective submissions that was not already argued before the District Court of Texas, Dallas County and Judge Parker who ruled against Armstrong. All LA's lawyers will say is she is wrong and SCA's Tillotson will say she is right.

The substance of the argument is already been presented to the District Court. Lance is only hoping these judges get out of bed on the other side. Oh uhm!

 

[Berzin]

Anything off-topic is getting deleted.

Any post where two or more posters decide to bicker amongst themselves is getting deleted.

 

[Spider1964]

Pretty sure there are posters familiar with Lance ties to this?

http://crankpunk.com/2014/03/14/usa-cycling-steve-johnson-and-the-empty-appeal/

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Pretty sure there are posters familiar with Lance ties to this?

http://crankpunk.com/2014/03/14/usa-cycling-steve-johnson-and-the-empty-appeal/

“It is my hope that Thom Weisel, Steve Johnson and Jim Ochowicz receive the scrutiny they deserve. When I think of the harm done to cycling by the doping of the last 20 years, guys like George Hincapie and Levi Leipheimer seem like small potatoes compared to the disservice done the sport by Weisel, Johnson and Ochowicz, and yet there’s no discussion of banning them from the sport. Justice is rarely just, huh?”

This x 1000

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

This x 1000

 

[RownhamHill]

I wouldn't do pro bono work for a guy who still vacations in Hawaii even in the face of multiple lawsuits. If you can buy a plane ticket to the islands, you can pay me my freaking money.

Is that a pitch for business?

 

[Stingray34]

Weisel, Johnson and Ochowicz are the biggest bunch of amoral, barftastic mofos that need to be taken down and banninated from the cycling landscape.

 

[Kennf1]

Responses from both sides are due tomorrow. Bob has been fighting this for decade, an extra few weeks are not troubling him.

I see that the trial court record is due today, but didn't see any briefing deadline on the schedule?

 

[mewmewmew13]

Why? Isn't armstrong going to be footing the bill for them in the end?



@Mewmewmew: bring back the fez

……………….

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Is that a pitch for business?

He could hire me any time, but I don't think he'd like my advice.

 

[thehog]

Weisel, Johnson and Ochowicz are the biggest bunch of amoral, barftastic mofos that need to be taken down and banninated from the cycling landscape.

But only if they tell the mods they will be banned.

 

[RownhamHill]

He could hire me any time, but I don't think he'd like my advice.

No, I'm sure not. But maybe if you guys streamed the legal conferences he could make some money back to pay his settlements, I'd pay to watch!

 

[Hugh Januss]

Anything off-topic is getting deleted.

Any post where two or more posters decide to bicker amongst themselves is getting deleted.

Public warnings about bickering seem a bit silly when you have edited out all the bickering, no? Maybe PM's to the offenders would be more appropriate here?

 

[thehog]

I see that the trial court record is due today, but didn't see any briefing deadline on the schedule?

18 months is a long time. I assume this will go on.

Be interesting to see the augments filed. Sure they'll be linked at some point.

In a motion on Tuesday asking the appeals court to intervene, attorneys for Armstrong argued that re-convening the arbitration would cause Armstrong and his business associates “irreparable harm.” One Armstrong attorney told the Associated Press the original settlement was binding and characterized SCA’s bid to have it reopened as “buyer’s remorse.”

Fitzgerald gave the parties until March 14 to file arguments with the appeals court.

More than 18 months have passed since Armstrong surrendered his battle with the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which issued a lifetime ban and then published a massive trove of evidence from its investigation into the doping culture of Armstrong’s teams.