Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Fortyninefourteen]

lol.. I was thinking the same. Almost looks like he was photoshopped in.

Looks like he's nursing some kind of embarrassing lower body condition.

 

[thehog]

Let's not let fact get in the way of a good story.

Elizabeth Kretuz was not flown to Colorado by Armstrong for personal photographs.

She's one of the official photographers for the event.

I don't doubt he hitched a ride to get in on the action, but please let's not make up stories.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Lance is loaded. That's why the Feds and SCA are suing him. He might as well blow the money on fun, self-promotional, narcissistic stuff, rather than preserving it for his judgment creditors.

With any luck the Feds will look-back whatever money LA paid to Liz and she'll become just another creditor.

 

[thehog]

With any luck the Feds will look-back whatever money LA paid to Liz and she'll become just another creditor.

Or shut down the US Pro Challenge bike race as they're the ones paying her not Armstrong.

 

[Race Radio]

Let's not let fact get in the way of a good story.

Oh, looks like someone got a DM from their new friend.

Lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story. You conveniently left out of the pics from the charity event this weekend,

http://instagram.com/p/rxxzehHCCa/

And the Photo shoot
http://instagram.com/p/r1_Z6mnCGJ/

Or the pizza party
http://instagram.com/p/rxxzehHCCa/

Funny how Liz has not shot a bike race for years but shows up to get a bunch of pics of Lance at the start, on the side of the road, hanging out with buddies? Yeah, just a coincidence, nothing planned. Good thing she got a press pass, easier to get those "Casual" on the side of the road shots

Maybe she is working on a new book? Her last one was pretty good

 

[Scott SoCal]

Or shut down the US Pro Challenge bike race as they're the ones paying her not Armstrong.

Oh no, not shut down the race! <gasp>

 

[yespatterns]

Looks like he's nursing some kind of embarrassing lower body condition.

They have pills for that I think (It was either that or portlandia's "we can pickle it", you choose).

 

[MarkvW]

Or shut down the US Pro Challenge bike race as they're the ones paying her not Armstrong.

Read this: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/member/ProPass/magazine/V409/Kreutz.jhtml?pq-path=15754

She's ultra-tight with Lance.

 

[Race Radio]

Or shut down the US Pro Challenge bike race as they're the ones paying her not Armstrong.

Do you really think photogs at the event are paid by the organizers? It would be unique but the race is organized by Medalist Sports who also puts on all the Livestrong rides and employs Kevin Livingston so who knows

Perhaps that is why they would "hire" someone who has only been on a moto a few times, hadn't done it for years, and primary experience on a moto was shooting Lance Armstrong's comeback for her book on Lance Armstrong's comeback

 

[MarkvW]

Or shut down the US Pro Challenge bike race as they're the ones paying her not Armstrong.

Read this: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/member/ProPass/magazine/V409/Kreutz.jhtml?pq-path=15754

She's ultra-tight with Lance.

 

[thehog]

Oh, looks like someone got a DM from their new friend.

Lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story. You conveniently left out of the pics from the charity event this weekend,

http://instagram.com/p/rxxzehHCCa/

And the Photo shoot
http://instagram.com/p/r1_Z6mnCGJ/

Or the pizza party
http://instagram.com/p/rxxzehHCCa/

Funny how Liz has not shot a race for years but shows up to get a bunch of pics of Lance on the side of the road? Yeah, just a coincidence, nothing planned.

Maybe she is working on a new book? Her last one was pretty good

Race Radio you know as well as I do there is nothing to suggest she was flown to Colorado at the expanse of Armstrong as you stated.

You speak of raising conflict but you blatantly made up story to fit your agenda.

Sure Armstrong got in on the action because she has shot him in the past. And no I did't receive a DM from Lance Armstrong. Another lie you've just made up to create conflict. Sorry. I've never spoken to him in my life, have absolutely no idea who he is.

You can link as many old photographs as you like. But she's there in official capacity for the actual race. Taking photos of Tyler Phinney from BMC etc.

I've also reported your post as it contains false accusations. The lengths you go to, seriously.

 

[Race Radio]

You can link as many old photographs as you like.

Those old photographs are from Saturday....but you knew that.

 

[The Hitch]

The best predictor of future behavior is past behaviour.

 

[JRTinMA]

Yep, that's why I phrased it as a question. You only mention your perception of Betsy's.

My point is Betsy was dragged into the fight. Her only obsession was to keep her name reasonably clean. Anecdotally, I wouldn't appreciate being called a liar either, especially to a national audience.

She drew a line in the sand. Stood her ground. I admire that, maybe you could try to.

All I said was its a stretch or a myth to use clinic parlance to say Betsy was a champion for clean cycling. Betsy was a champion at bringing down lance, her dogged desire to see this through helped destroy LA, for that she deserves praise. Its my opinion she never gave a **** about clean cycling, I'm not sure why thats so unpopular. Her actions looked singularly focused on one goal.

 

[thehog]

Those old photographs are from Saturday....but you knew that.

When you have the evidence that she was paid as part of a personal trip for Armstrong then show it.

But you don't have it. Because you made it up. In other words you lied. Similarly to falsely accusing me of receiving direct messages from Armstrong. Another lie.

Right now it's impossible to engage with you. You're just too obsessed. I've reported your post and will step away. Please respect my wishes and allow it to be dealt by moderation.

 

[JRTinMA]

I noted the same. This point was made by another poster in jest but it was latched onto to, you know, to cause conflict.

Neither BroDigg said as much but there it is, the new talking point, set in stone forever more.

I find it disappointing that there is little effort to read Bro or Digger's posts and take in what is being said and respond in kind. People may not agree but at least read it and respond why you disagree.

Good post hog.

 

[MacRoadie]

Weisel.
Grassy knoll.
(Remove a syllable,
And you have a wonderfully puerile rhyming game to play.)

Like the Lyndon Larouche reference. Beautifully inappropriate non-sequitur.

Sweet. Just got paid for twenty something words from Andreu Strategies!
Maybe this will give me an air of legitimacy which will be significant enough for a corporate merger.
AndreuSonMondWalsh Strategery WorldWide LLC

Corporate merger? C'mon Mike, gotta think bigger bro! We're talkin' IPO here!

 

[Scott SoCal]

Race Radio you know as well as I do there is nothing to suggest she was flown to Colorado at the expanse of Armstrong as you stated.

You speak of raising conflict but you blatantly made up story to fit your agenda.

Sure Armstrong got in on the action because she has shot him in the past. And no I did't receive a DM from Lance Armstrong. Another lie you've just made up to create conflict. Sorry. I've never spoken to him in my life, have absolutely no idea who he is.

You can link as many old photographs as you like. But she's there in official capacity for the actual race. Taking photos of Tyler Phinney from BMC etc.

I've also reported your post as it contains false accusations. The lengths you go to, seriously.

Not that you've ever given this forum reason to doubt you word... but just to be safe, go ahead and back that up with, ya know, more than just your word.

Thanks.

 

[thehog]

Not that you've ever given this forum reason to doubt you word... but just to be safe, go ahead and back that up with, ya know, more than just your word.

Thanks.

As did so by providing photographic evidence of her on the race motorcycle with her accreditation and vest displayed. That's not good enough?

Her entire twitter feed is full of photographs from every stage in the race including Tyler Phinney from BMC.

The official website has her photographs.

There's simply no evidence that Armstrong paid her as part of a private trip to enhance his image. I don't doubt he got in on the action to improve his image but the rest is just made up.

 

[Scott SoCal]

All I said was its a stretch or a myth to use clinic parlance to say Betsy was a champion for clean cycling. Betsy was a champion at bringing down lance, her dogged desire to see this through helped destroy LA, for that she deserves praise. Its my opinion she never gave a **** about clean cycling, I'm not sure why thats so unpopular. Her actions looked singularly focused on one goal.

Betsy was a champion at bringing down lance

Is that what happened?

Its my opinion she never gave a **** about clean cycling

Lets say you're right. So what?

Her actions looked singularly focused on one goal

But for her testimony being compelled via subpoena you never would have heard her name mentioned. What don't you get about that? This fight was brought to her, not the other way around.

 

[Race Radio]

accreditation

Do you really think that Photogs at races are paid by the organizers, or are you just making that up? The only person on that Moto being paid by race organizers is the driver.

Of course the fact that she showed up 4 days before the race to shoot an event put on by lance's current girlfriend, lives in Austin, Shot lance's first comeback book. etc. is just a coincidence.

 

[MarkvW]

As did so by providing photographic evidence of her on the race motorcycle with her accreditation and vest displayed. That's not good enough?

Her entire twitter feed is full of photographs from every stage in the race including Tyler Phinney from BMC.

The official website has her photographs.

There's simply no evidence that Armstrong paid her as part of a private trip to enhance his image. I don't doubt he got in on the action to improve his image but the rest is just made up.

Well...she ain't gonna fly up there for free. I doubt that a bike race would fork over the expenses for an out of state photographer when Colorado has more than its share of good photographers. And somebody's likely paying her... Lance is the best guess, since he's like a brother to her--and he's paid her in the past.

The unsupported statement was left out there like bait, and you went for it. Chalk it up to experience and move on.

 

[JRTinMA]

Is that what happened?



Lets say you're right. So what?



But for her testimony being compelled via subpoena you never would have heard her name mentioned. What don't you get about that? This fight was brought to her, not the other way around.

Sometimes the original point gets lost, I was commenting on somebody praising her as being a champion for clean cycling blah blah blah. I stated my opinion otherwise. To your first question, yes, something like that happened. And you last point proves mine in a way, she didn't care about clean cycling.

 

[Scott SoCal]

As did so by providing photographic evidence of her on the race motorcycle with her accreditation and vest displayed. That's not good enough?

Her entire twitter feed is full of photographs from every stage in the race including Tyler Phinney from BMC.

The official website has her photographs.

There's simply no evidence that Armstrong paid her as part of a private trip to enhance his image. I don't doubt he got in on the action to improve his image but the rest is just made up.

As did so by providing photographic evidence of her on the race motorcycle with her accreditation and vest displayed. That's not good enough?

Uh, no?

Her entire twitter feed is full of photographs from every stage in the race including Tyler Phinney from BMC.

Ok, so what?

The official website has her photographs.

Okay. Cool. So you stated that she's there in an official capacity for the race. I'm assuming you know that as fact... should be easy for you to demonstrate your statement.

There's simply no evidence that Armstrong paid her as part of a private trip

At least as much as her being there in an official capacity for the race, no?

I don't doubt he got in on the action to improve his image but the rest is just made up

Perhaps an educated guess... kinda like her being there in some official capacity.

 

[The Hitch]

All I said was its a stretch or a myth to use clinic parlance to say Betsy was a champion for clean cycling. Betsy was a champion at bringing down lance, her dogged desire to see this through helped destroy LA, for that she deserves praise. Its my opinion she never gave a **** about clean cycling, I'm not sure why thats so unpopular. Her actions looked singularly focused on one goal.

I remember in the documentary blood and games Betsy is shown reading lequipe about first contador and then gatlin before talking about lance, which I took to imply (as was the raison detre for the whole documentary) that doping was a bigger problem in sport than just 1 or 2 athletes.

Contador especially since this was 3 years before he tested positive.