Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Race Radio]

It's in the article.

You mean the part where Johan was fooled by it?

 

[Anonymous]

You missed the link at the top to this article:







- Harassment:
1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute.

2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry; raid.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/harassment

If anyone deserves to be harassed, it is that ****wit Gunderson.

 

[TrueCyclingFan]

I was just going to post this, so thanks. Sorta outs his hissy fit about publicly humiliating and harassing people doesn't it.

No it doesn't. He gave out the email as defense AGAINST harassment. This person was harassing constantly.

It would be like if someone was continually using their anonymity to post personal information about you and attacking your private life, so you gave out that person's personal website. It would be totally justified.

But even if you don't agree with that, Armstrong is strongly criticised for his behaviors. It would be hypocritical to have one standard for him and then support dubious behaviour by others.

 

[Race Radio]

troll babble

You have to be kidding. Somebody with a password retweets something I wrote and it is a campaign? Telling the truth is a campaign?

What Armstrong has done to Simeoni, Anderson, Andreu, LeMond, Bassons, Walsh, O'Reilly, etc is a campaign.

 

[Race Radio]

Armstrong is strongly criticised for his behaviors.

Ok, let me see if I have this straight. Armstrong is allowed to lie, cheat, and intimidate but pointing this out is "harassment"?

Got it.

 

[Polish]

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...itter-War-Against-Lance-Armstrong.html?page=1
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Great first post and may I be the first to welcome you to the Clinic.
Welcome!

BTW, here in the Clinic we refer to the "Campaign of harrassment" as a "Witch Hunt.

I find it refreshing that Floyd is PROUD to be a Witch Hunter.
Never hid the fact.

Except recently, when he says there are other people(s) using his twiiter account.
Whats that about? Could be CYA, hope not.

Oh well, happy hunting Floyd!

 

[python]

the troll is gone, so lets return to reasonable analysis...

the outside article alleges, the anti-armstrong jokes can back fire, yet they describe him meeting with his lawyers and continuing unabated...one would think from this that floyd has at least ran a legal check on his actions, wouldn't he ?

 

[Polish]

the troll is gone, so lets return to reasonable analysis...

the outside article alleges, the anti-armstrong jokes can back fire, yet they describe him meeting with his lawyers and continuing unabated...one would think from this that floyd has at least ran a legal check on his actions, wouldn't he ?

Might explain the recent 300 deleted tweets and the "other users of his account" revelation?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

You missed the link at the top to this article:




- Harassment:
1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute.

2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry; raid.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/harassment

I see lots of opinion there, which they never backed up - I thought you might have had something of substance.

No it doesn't. He gave out the email as defense AGAINST harassment. This person was harassing constantly.

It would be like if someone was continually using their anonymity to post personal information about you and attacking your private life, so you gave out that person's personal website. It would be totally justified.

But even if you don't agree with that, Armstrong is strongly criticised for his behaviors. It would be hypocritical to have one standard for him and then support dubious behaviour by others.

You realize that the emails between Andrew Hogg and Armstrong were private - while Armstrong choose to identify the sender of private correspondence to his 'followers' - so your theory fails right there.

 

[Granville57]

the troll is gone...

NOOOOO!!!!!

I had to bow out for a few and I missed all the fun!

Wow, though. That's a real shocker.

 

[Francois the Postman]

Any objections to me closing this thread?

 

[Polish]

Any objections to me closing this thread?

May I be the first to say "Goodbye" before you lock it?

Goodbye

And is the guy on the right in the Spinal Tap THE Harlen Pepper?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaaU3NziwGI

 

[Willy_Voet]

Or delete altogether...

Here, here!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Any objections to me closing this thread?

Actually, yes.

Closing threads like this only gives certain members ammunition to claim that there is a concerted effort by the mods etc to silence opinion.

Leave it open - as BPC is gone it will slide off the front page before to long.

 

[Granville57]

I'm sure the Outside article is going to generate plenty more discussion.
How about a merger with some posts from the LA thread brought here?

Starting from here:

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo.../The-Twitter-War-Against-Lance-Armstrong.html

“I’m out to demonstrate how few people understand how easy it is to manipulate perception using the Internet,”

 

[PotentialPro]

Until you add "and they put a gun in the small of his back and forced him through the front door" to your ludicrous narrative, it all makes no difference.

He went in of his own volition, fully aware that a grand jury witness who had provided testimony alleging that he had used PED's and other doping procedures was inside.

I am curious about a few things. I know by several accounts that certain key witnesses were called for GJ testimony. Several parties have been put on notice, including ex girlfriends. However, something that has yet to come out, is if Pharmstrong has been formally notified that he is the target of an ongoing investigation. We all have been guessing as to what is being investigated, and who MIGHT be served. We only know a few things, and that is pertaining only to who was called, and who is on notice. I do not remember hearing anything about the feds formally asking for cooperation from Pharmstrong, et al, or for information as of yet. Very little as to what was questioned and what information was divulged has been released. I by no means will EVER defend the guy, but if he hasn't been formally notified that he specifically is being investigated, it draws up some interesting questions in regards to witness tampering, such as: If I havent been charged, or formally notified of an investigation, how can I tamper?

 

[Martin318is]

Indict the MFer already. Time to take the show on the road.

Criminal prosecution as public amusement!

Its been a tried and true winner for centuries

 

[MacRoadie]

I am curious about a few things. I know by several accounts that certain key witnesses were called for GJ testimony. Several parties have been put on notice, including ex girlfriends. However, something that has yet to come out, is if Pharmstrong has been formally notified that he is the target of an ongoing investigation. We all have been guessing as to what is being investigated, and who MIGHT be served. We only know a few things, and that is pertaining only to who was called, and who is on notice. I do not remember hearing anything about the feds formally asking for cooperation from Pharmstrong, et al, or for information as of yet. Very little as to what was questioned and what information was divulged has been released. I by no means will EVER defend the guy, but if he hasn't been formally notified that he specifically is being investigated, it draws up some interesting questions in regards to witness tampering, such as: If I havent been charged, or formally notified of an investigation, how can I tamper?

True, no one knows for sure what is being investigated, but nothing about the bolded part of my post is inaccurate.

1. He went of his own volition.

2. He knows that there is a grand jury investigation, and he knows Tyler has testified (Tyler has stated this publicly).

3. He knows that Tyler testified about his PED use (see above).

4. He is at least aware that he might be a target as evidenced by the level to which he has lawyered up (although by no means an indication of guilt).

5. The FBI has been in contact with the restaurant, investigating an event which would be a non-issue if two witnesses were to have a run-in (although this obviously occurred after the confrontation).

6. If Armstrong HAS been notified (again IF), the Feds won't be making it public, and I rather doubt Armstrong's team would be rushing to publicise it.

 

[autologous]

Living up to his username, furiously polishing the turd that refuses to shine

Polishing that turd. Day in, day out. It must be hard to get that sh*t out from under your fingernails.

I had a friend who worked in a bakery. No matter how hard she tried to hide it, there was always a delicious whiff of fresh bread about her.

Spending your waking hours polishing that turd must leave a god awful stench. Your skin, your hair, your clothes. Infused with sh*t. I'd imagine that after a while (was it after 50? 100? 500? 1000? 2000 posts?) you just became used to it - the fecal reek no longer registers to you. I can smell it from here. Your posts ooze it.

You've already infected this forum. I hope you at least bleach your e-coli laden hands before making your dinner.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Anyone ever read the TripAdvisor reviews of Cache Cache? Great stuff!

45 people found this review helpful

"The serving staff was terribly rude and the space smelled like EPO and human testosterone. Was the strangest thing I've ever experienced."

60 people found this review helpful

"I was enjoying my meal until the desert. The waitstaff became very hostile and a man at the bar started babbling about destruction, witness stands, and life in hell. Very odd. I was asked to leave and never return. No problem, my white bag lunch is better."

20 people found this review helpful

"Don't plan on taking a group of clients to this restaurant if you've recently done a 60 minutes interview that looks bad for a celebrity who is friends with the owner. Coming to grips with mistakes in your life and giving honest answers (that everyone already knows are true anyway) will get you blacked listed. At least you will be..."

funny stuff! remember, Alpe, you and I have the same sense of humour. my favorite is the first one about the place smelling like EPO and T

 

[Neworld]

If people are trying to claim the moral highground about Armstrong, constantly attacking him and his associates on twitter under every message they write, using sock accounts, rather undermines this.

I think the Manrod idea is genius, thrifty and creative.

Clearly the only difference between Manrod and years of Gunderson propaganda is the pennies Manrod is spending relative to the hundreds of thousands of expensive bucks spent on collusional, unethical, drones that LA has bought off over the years.

NW

 

[PotentialPro]

True, no one knows for sure what is being investigated, but nothing about the bolded part of my post is inaccurate.

1. He went of his own volition.

2. He knows that there is a grand jury investigation, and he knows Tyler has testified (Tyler has stated this publicly).

3. He knows that Tyler testified about his PED use (see above).

4. He is at least aware that he might be a target as evidenced by the level to which he has lawyered up (although by no means an indication of guilt).

5. The FBI has been in contact with the restaurant, investigating an event which would be a non-issue if two witnesses were to have a run-in (although this obviously occurred after the confrontation).

6. If Armstrong HAS been notified (again IF), the Feds won't be making it public, and I rather doubt Armstrong's team would be rushing to publicise it.

I agree, that is all cool. We have tried to connect so many dots, some of it is just supposition at this point. What you say seems correct. I would say the same things because logically they work.

I almost wonder if Pharmstrong was notified if it were in the best interests to release it, rather than hold back. Being tried in the court of public opinion sucks, if they strike first, and play the right cards, they get a swelling number of supporters. It is just a different viewpoint. I wish some cards would be played so that his crew can be fully smacked down by all the haters.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I was wondering... if he has been notified or served what would be the benefit for his legal team to acknowledge at all? ..or would it be something that they could not keep quiet if/when it happens..

 

[D-Queued]

And, BPC, ...

No?!?

Again? No way.

Amazing.

Dave.

 

[breakaway]

I was wondering... if he has been notified or served what would be the benefit for his legal team to acknowledge at all? ..or would it be something that they could not keep quiet if/when it happens..

If he was formally indicted, there'd be no hiding it. It's a matter of public record. Rest assured, media hounds are watching court dockets and would sniff it out even if LA's camp didn't acknowledge it. He would be dragged into court and formally charged.....