Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[ChrisE]

I read you wrong. You're an amazing person. Thank-you for moving me.

Don't beat yourself up over reading me wrong. It always takes awhile before people realize how great I am.

 

[AcademyCC]

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline;

A. What they want to happen from this investigation? and
B. What they think will happen?

Nice short answers are good. No worries if you cant be bothered but may be interesting just to see exactly where everybody stands.

 

[palmerq]

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline;

A. What they want to happen from this investigation? and
B. What they think will happen?

Nice short answers are good. No worries if you cant be bothered but may be interesting just to see exactly where everybody stands.

A I would like mr armstrong to get into official trouble for his doping and for it to come out as fact, not to bothered about them taking away his wins I think it is only fair considering what happened to ullrich and others who were caught. Fraud and whatever other crimes he commited do not interest me too much but I suppose if he has been up to no good he should pay for it.

B nothing very interesting.

 

[sniper]

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline;

A. What they want to happen from this investigation? and
B. What they think will happen?

Nice short answers are good. No worries if you cant be bothered but may be interesting just to see exactly where everybody stands.

To see Bruyneel, Verdruggen, and McQuaid get their asses wiped.
Armstrong is of secondary interest in all this.
He was just another pawn.

 

[Cimacoppi48]

To see Bruyneel, Verdruggen, and McQuaid get their asses wiped.
Armstrong is of secondary interest in all this.
He was just another pawn.

Pawn?? A very willing player whose role when the facts come out will show him to be much more major than Hein and Pat.

 

[AcademyCC]

Pawn?? A very willing player whose role when the facts come out will show him to be much more major than Hein and Pat.

I agree with that entirely. You didnt answer the question though. Where do you stand?

 

[Granville57]

Where do you stand?

LOL! You’re still here?

Let’s review. First we had this:

Allow me to introduce myself....

Ive always been a huge sportsfan but up until a the last tour de france have never followed cycling that closely. Everything has changed! The 2011 TDF blew my lights out.

But then this. Demonstrating a sense of history of British Pro Cyling, and yet we’re supposed to believe that the first Tour de France you ever saw was just this year.

Lets not forget that DM and DB are very close regardless of DM's sister's position. At some point sense has to prevail. British Cycling has done alot for DM since his comeback but its time to move on and possibly create another star

And the game continues....

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline...

Yeah, OK.

 

[sniper]

Pawn?? A very willing player whose role when the facts come out will show him to be much more major than Hein and Pat.

of course he was major.
but Verdruggen nonetheless owned him.
Verdruggen and Bruyneel facilitated the whole circus.

To me, Armstrong was nothing but a sucker who wanted very badly to become an alltime American hero, legend, whatever.
He got the chance to become one, and grabbed that chance by its tits. I can't be angry at him for having done that (disregarding for a second his other wrongdoings).

Also: the unjustice done to Floyd (which to me is a much bigger issue) is much more owing to McQuaid and Verdruggen than to Armstrong.

I think if Floyd could pick between LA, Verdr. and McQ. and kick one of them in the balls, he'd pick Verdruggen and/or McQuaid, but certainly not LA.

 

[AcademyCC]

LOL! You’re still here?

Let’s review. First we had this:

But then this. Demonstrating a sense of history of British Pro Cyling, and yet we’re supposed to believe that the first Tour de France you ever saw was just this year.


And the game continues....

Yeah, OK.

Point taken no doubt. Is it not acceptable for someone to be interested and want to know more on a topic?

You guys obviously know what your talking about so is not the best place to find out?

 

[AcademyCC]

Tough crowd lol

 

[BroDeal]

Point taken no doubt. Is it not acceptable for someone to be interested and want to know more on a topic?

You guys obviously know what your talking about so is not the best place to find out?

LOL. BPC caught lying--yet again--and he continues the charade as if we are all stupid. Nobody is buying your "I'm just a naive, reasonable guy" act. We all know that it is just a matter of time before you go full ***.

 

[Velodude]

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline;

A. What they want to happen from this investigation? and
B. What they think will happen?

Nice short answers are good. No worries if you cant be bothered but may be interesting just to see exactly where everybody stands.

A. That good will prevail over (Dr.?) evil.
B. The bad will get their just desserts/deserts.

(and Polish will get a life)

 

[AcademyCC]

LOL. BPC caught lying--yet again--and he continues the charade as if we are all stupid. Nobody is buying your "I'm just a naive, reasonable guy" act. We all know that it is just a matter of time before you go full ***.

Surely it must be clear from Dr Maserati dismantling me the other night that my Pro cycling knowledge is pretty limited. I cant see where your coming from. I watched the tour 2011 then read alot of books, thats its!!!!Im enjoying the fact that you guys think i am anything more than that that. Can we not just be reasonable.

 

[BroDeal]

Surely it must be clear from Dr Maserati dismantling me the other night that my Pro cycling knowledge is pretty limited. I cant see where your coming from. I watched the tour 2011 then read alot of books, thats its!!!!Im enjoying the fact that you guys think i am anything more than that that. Can we not just be reasonable.

No, we cannot. Not with your trolling.

 

[AcademyCC]

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline;

A. What they want to happen from this investigation? and
B. What they think will happen?

Nice short answers are good. No worries if you cant be bothered but may be interesting just to see exactly where everybody stands.

How is that trolling? Thats a genuine question to find out exactly where everyone sits on this issue!

 

[Granville57]

How is that trolling? Thats a genuine question to find out exactly where everyone sits on this issue!

Not sure what you mean by "everyone," but if you're interested in the opinions of those who regularly visited this thread, then I've got a xmas present for you!

Since you're so fond of reading, our good man Francois has assembled all the information you seek into one beautiful package. I'll even wrap a bow around it.

For all the answers you seek, just click here!

Merry Christmas

 

[AcademyCC]

Not sure what you mean by "everyone," but if you're interested in the opinions of those who regularly visited this thread, then I've got a xmas present for you!

Since you're so fond of reading, our good man Francois has assembled all the information you seek into one beautiful package. I'll even wrap a bow around it.

For all the answers you seek, just click here!

Merry Christmas

Thanks guys. All the best

 

[BroDeal]

How is that trolling? Thats a genuine question to find out exactly where everyone sits on this issue!

BPC doesn't have genuine questions. You already know where everyone stands because you have been here under a hundred plus times different names.

 

[DirtyWorks]

In 2004 Verbruggen was dragging his feet to sign up pro cycling to the WADA code. This was a pre-requisite to compete at the Olympics in Athens.

He claims the delay was caused by pro riders threatening to form a breakaway movement to avoid coming under the umbrella of WADA.

Did not happen in 2004 and if ASO was to say "screw you" to UCI and WADA the Tour would become a non UCI sanctioned event without UCI pro teams and top pro riders.

Only a man and his dog would be on the Champs-Élysées for the final stage.

You seriously underestimate ASO. ASO owns much of the UCI's ProTour events. They can leave and they'd take the pro teams with them and every event where they do the broadcast production. (many) They would leave the UCI with the Tour of China, World Championships, and no broadcast equipment.

ASO does not want to be involved in the officiating and the talent development. They tolerate Pat and Hein at best, throwing them a few table scraps in exchange for fealty. A good deal for ASO.

ASO is not kicking Wonderboy off the record books. Enough people will forget how he won soon enough.

 

[AcademyCC]

I feel so christmassy now. Its great! Just put the tree up and everything. Granville - your some guy

 

[Polish]

I understand alot of you guys have been on this forum for a while analyzing this whole situation and have developed certain stances and view points.

If you didnt mind, for a 'newbie', could everyone briefly outline;

A. What they want to happen from this investigation? and
B. What they think will happen?

Nice short answers are good. No worries if you cant be bothered but may be interesting just to see exactly where everybody stands.

Welcome to the forum, AcademyCC. I am one of those that "have been on the forum" for awhile! Longer than most everyone here lol.

What I want to see happen from the investigation is simple: Doping Doctors need to put rider's health #1 First numero uno priority. If a rider makes the FAIL DECISION to dope, they need to be advised and treated most properly. If a Doctor fails to keep the rider's health protected, they need to be prosecuted - both rider and doctor. If a rider goes to a "backroom clinic" to dope - prosecute both even more seriously.

What I think will happen is pretty much the same. Baby steps. The "Health Laws" that are being used to prosecute in Spain, France, Italy, and elsewhere are good steps. I hope we can all agree on that

 

[BotanyBay]

Floyd has been very direct in stating that he feels no guilt and that he'd do the same things over again the same way.

He would have gotten away with it too, "had it not been for you meddling kids!". This is why I find the reconcilation (of sorts) between Mr Papp and Floyd to be so darn odd. Papp seems to agree that what he did was bad. Floyd's just PO'd that he's been penalized while others have gotten away with it.

of course he was major.
but Verdruggen nonetheless owned him.
Verdruggen and Bruyneel facilitated the whole circus.

To me, Armstrong was nothing but a sucker who wanted very badly to become an alltime American hero, legend, whatever.
He got the chance to become one, and grabbed that chance by its tits. I can't be angry at him for having done that (disregarding for a second his other wrongdoings).

Also: the unjustice done to Floyd (which to me is a much bigger issue) is much more owing to McQuaid and Verdruggen than to Armstrong.

I think if Floyd could pick between LA, Verdr. and McQ. and kick one of them in the balls, he'd pick Verdruggen and/or McQuaid, but certainly not LA.

 

[AcademyCC]

BPC doesn't have genuine questions. You already know where everyone stands because you have been here under a hundred plus times different names.

Thats remarkable! Really really remarkable.

 

[AcademyCC]

Welcome to the forum, AcademyCC. I am one of those that "have been on the forum" for awhile! Longer than most everyone here lol.

What I want to see happen from the investigation is simple: Doping Doctors need to put rider's health #1 First numero uno priority. If a rider makes the FAIL DECISION to dope, they need to be advised and treated most properly. If a Doctor fails to keep the rider's health protected, they need to be prosecuted - both rider and doctor. If a rider goes to a "backroom clinic" to dope - prosecute both even more seriously.

What I think will happen is pretty much the same. Baby steps. The "Health Laws" that are being used to prosecute in Spain, France, Italy, and elsewhere are good steps. I hope we can all agree on that

Thanks for an answer, although im slightly scared to talk to you as everyone seems to hate you aswell. Vive Le Tour

 

[BroDeal]

Thats remarkable! Really really remarkable.

It remarkable how many times you come back and back and back.