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Australia are frothing at the mouth about doing badly this year.

probably for getting only one gold thus far (10 silver, 6 bronze).
and I don't believe they are traditionaly in the running for many medals at the athletics, right? so they might not have that many chances left to increase the score.
 
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Interim medal ranking (NB: only considering total number of medals and only considering countries with +10 medals)

Rank - Country - Nr. of medals
1 - USA - 45
2 - China - 43
3 - Großbritannien - 25
4 - Russland - 24
5 - Japan - 21
6 - Deutschland - 20
7 - Frankreich - 19
8 - Australien - 17
9 - Südkorea - 16
10 - Italien - 12

Here is the ranking reshuffled according to number of medals per million inhabitants (on the far right in bold):

1 - Australien -17 - 22.000.000 -0.772
2- Großbritannien -25 - 62.000.000 - 0.403
3 -Südkorea - 16 - 50.000.000 - 0.320
4- Frankreich -19- 65.000.000 - 0.292
5 -Deutschland - 20 - 81.000.000 - 0.247
6- Italien- 12 - 60.000.000 - 0.200
7 -Russland - 24 - 142.000.000 - 0.169
8 -Japan - 21 - 128.000.000 -0.164
9- USA - 45 - 311.000.000 -0.144
10 -China -43 - 1.300.000.000 -0.033

Of course, a lot of caveats to be made here (like the fact that there is a maximum number of participants per country, among many other things). So certainly doesn't allow to draw any farreaching conclusions, but it's interesting to see Australia doing so well on average. China's average performance is hardly suspect.

Perhaps not, but there are questions in our very own Clinic about a country's domination of individual sports. With this in mind, hiw about swimming:

Country Total
United States 14 8 6 28
China 4 2 3 9
France 4 2 1 7
South Africa 2 1 0 3
Australia 1 5 2 8
Netherlands 1 1 0 2
Hungary 1 0 1 2
Lithuania 1 0 0 1
Japan 0 2 7 9
Russian Federation 0 2 2 4
South Korea 0 2 0 2
Spain 0 2 0 2
Great Britain & N. Ireland 0 1 2 3
Brazil 0 1 1 2
Belarus 0 1 0 1
Canada 0 0 1 1

The USA has won exactly 50% of the gold medals
 
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Avoriaz said:
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The USA has won exactly 50% of the gold medals

no denying that this is suspect.
i assume the US swimming coach's doping remarks on the address of the 16-year old chinese were merely a preemptive smokescreen to divert the attention away from the suspicious US results.
 
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Gatlin and Chambers don't need to be on the roids any more.
They still have the muscles they gained through roid use.
 
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sniper said:
probably for getting only one gold thus far (10 silver, 6 bronze).
and I don't believe they are traditionaly in the running for many medals at the athletics, right? so they might not have that many chances left to increase the score.

Yeah, Aussies haven't been overly strong in track and field in recent times but we have two favourites in Sally Pearson (hurdles) and Mitchell Watt (long jump) and Steve Hooker is still a roughie (pole vault). That's pretty good for us!

It will be interesting to see how this plays out post Olympics. The last time the Aussies really underperformed as a collective was Montreal when we did not win one gold medal. The dissection of that performance resulted in the creation of the AIS, a massive injection of funding and implementation of comprehensive programs.

Federal sport funding has been cut significantly over the last fews years. That may well be reversed very quickly. The bigger problem seems to be a cultural one within the team.... there's quite a long list of Olympians in this country that seem to think respresenting Australia and heading to an Olympics is their God given right rather than a privelege. Anyone that follows sport closely could almost see this coming heading into the games... there was a lot of sooky, me, me, me athletes in the press.
 
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Jalina said:
Yeah, Aussies haven't been overly strong in track and field in recent times but we have two favourites in Sally Pearson (hurdles) and Mitchell Watt (long jump) and Steve Hooker is still a roughie (pole vault). That's pretty good for us!
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that made me smile.
Reminded me of the infamous Boner Palace located in Krakow. The building was recently renamed Bonerowski Palace :D


Jalina said:
It will be interesting to see how this plays out post Olympics. The last time the Aussies really underperformed as a collective was Montreal when we did not win one gold medal. The dissection of that performance resulted in the creation of the AIS, a massive injection of funding and implementation of comprehensive programs.
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doubtlessly ;)
 
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sniper said:
probably for getting only one gold thus far (10 silver, 6 bronze).
and I don't believe they are traditionaly in the running for many medals at the athletics, right? so they might not have that many chances left to increase the score.

Apart from the men's hockey, two possible golds in track and field and some possible gold in swimming and track cycling. That was about it as far as Aust expectations were concerned. The equestrian team was looking good until two falls upset their good start. Expected to do well in triathlon and got a bronze in the womens. Most of the people I work with are not even watching and they don't like ungracious losers who burst into tears and don't give their rivals any accolades for being too good on the day. World Championships are better. You get the performances without the hype and BS.
 
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no denying that this is suspect.
i assume the US swimming coach's doping remarks on the address of the 16-year old chinese were merely a preemptive smokescreen to divert the attention away from the suspicious US results.

Because historically the US isn't good at swimming? :)

A bit tongue in cheek there, not like I think we're beyond suspicion by any stretch, but medal count isn't really much evidence of anything.
 
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red_flanders said:
Because historically the US isn't good at swimming? :)

A bit tongue in cheek there, not like I think we're beyond suspicion by any stretch, but medal count isn't really much evidence of anything.

true,
but swimming is really very popular and important (and thus well-funded) in a lot of countries, not just the USA. So while we would always expect USA to be dominant, perhaps we wouldn't expect them to be this dominant.

On the other extreme, Germany for instance has a very decent swimming culture and history, but zero medals this year.
Which doesn't prove the German's aren't doping of course, but it reemphasizes USA's dominance.
 
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Russian walker collapsed near the end of the 20k walk. He was busted for epo along with his training partners.

Did not look good at all
 
Mar 11, 2009
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Sanchez knocks a second off his season's PB in running 47.6".
Easing up, not even breathing slighlty hard, able to make silly pose.
A national record and PB behind that
WC Dai Green totally knackered, in 4th.

Yet, around here, it's the guy in 4th who's up to no good......:rolleyes:
 
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Mellow Velo said:
Sanchez knocks a second off his season's PB in running 47.6".
Easing up, not even breathing slighlty hard, able to make silly pose.
A national record and PB behind that
WC Dai Green totally knackered, in 4th.

Yet, around here, it's the guy in 4th who's up to no good......:rolleyes:

NO - we just question having to listen to Steve Cram being astounded at such a performance from Sanchez - and yet none of the BBC questions when GB keep cracking world records like poppin popcorn !
 
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is one of this british track riders on chemo or what happened to her hair and eyebrows? Serious question, no kidding here.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
is one of this british track riders on chemo or what happened to her hair and eyebrows? Serious question, no kidding here.

Rowsell has Alopecia areata, a condition resulting in hair loss
 
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Cycle Chic said:
NO - we just question having to listen to Steve Cram being astounded at such a performance from Sanchez - and yet none of the BBC questions when GB keep cracking world records like poppin popcorn !

Eh?
Apart from their own in the velodrome, what world records have GB cracked?:confused:
Certainly it's not in the pool.:eek: