Official London Olympics Doping thread

[FoxxyBrown1111]

How can the general public watch this nonsense and think cycling has a major doping problem???

thats what i ask myself since years...

 

[JimmyFingers]

I love it when people complain about other peoples ignorance, while being wrong themselves.

ok she missed Beijing, my bad, but she was favourite for this event

 

[JimmyFingers]

How can the general public watch this nonsense and think cycling has a major doping problem???

What, people winning?

 

[mb2612]

ok she missed Beijing, my bad, but she was favourite for this event

Yeah, and while performance always should mean things need to be looked at again, there is nothing surprising today which would imply a change in their doping habits.*


* not saying they are dirty, but I don't feel able to claim any elite athlete is clean.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I'm suprised the GB long jumper hasn't been tagged yet.
8 metres 31 is huge.

Lots of talk about hypocrisy, but I bet the women 100 metre runners won't get as much stick.


Leading Alien 1 won from Aliens 2 and 3.....
...obviously aliens. They don't appear to have to breath London air. (no bad thing)

Only an all comers record. Definitely clean.

I think those long jumpers are on some really funny stuff from the past century. Barely beating Jesse Owens on a fast track.

LMAO the aliens medal count....

 

[The Hitch]

Meh. Race Favourite in shock win headline.
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He was favorite in Britain because he is British

Its not like Bolt coming in as olympic champion, or Rudisha who is the world champion even Ennis as a former world champion.

Farah is a 29 year old who has never won a major title over this distance, and until 2 years ago was pretty much a nobody.

Oh and his totaly unfancied training partner comes 2nd.

 

[The Hitch]

Ennis is defending Olympic champion.

Nataliya Dobrynska would like a word with you

 

[will10]

Somebody take a look at this Salazar dude in the US. The 2 guys he trains just destroyed the Etheopians.

Sure is interesting. At least Mo is African-born. Rupp is interesting though.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Farah took 42 seconds off his PB last year at age 28.

Trains under the squeaky clean Alberto Salazar.

 

[roundabout]

the women 100 meters runners should stick batteries in their track suits

would make them more plausible

 

[JimmyFingers]

Nataliya Dobrynska would like a word with you

Already admitted my ****-up

 

[JimmyFingers]

He was favorite in Britain because he is British

Its not like Bolt coming in as olympic champion, or Rudisha who is the world champion even Ennis as a former world champion.

Farah is a 29 year old who has never won a major title over this distance, and until 2 years ago was pretty much a nobody.

Oh and his totaly unfancied training partner comes 2nd.

But he's always clearly had talent, African-born who has been the man to beat largely for those last two years. My favourite British gold

 

[cycladianpirate]

The olympics lost it's way years ago. Perhaps it was the soviet bloc that started the rot, but everyone else has hopped onto the bandwagon with alacrity.

Perhaps there was once a "Chariots of Fire" ethos to it - I don't know.

I do know that it's now a rather sad joke.

 

[The Hitch]

But he's always clearly had talent, African-born who has been the man to beat largely for those last two years. My favourite British gold

I like Farah too and hope his win brings more people into the sport, but one cant deny that for the most part, British athletes seem to be finding an extra 10% in this olympics over previous years. Maybe it could just be luck or the extra funding or the support, but it cannot be denied that for this olympics, that the physical limits of British athletes compared to the rest of the competition, have increased drastically. Just look at the rower who got silver 3 times, and now at 37 she and her partner just fly away. The cyclists all breaking world records. Ennis making a challenge for the 100m hurdles individual. etc etc etc.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Nice gut on Shelly-Ann.

Tygart and Conte had some interesting things to say about Jamaica.

Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the US Anti-Doping Agency... says the performances of athletes from Jamaica, Russia and Spain are compromised because drug testing in those countries is not stringent enough and does not involve out-of-competition and no-notice testing, or tests for EPO and human growth hormone.

'Frankly, athletes from those countries [Jamaica, Spain and Russia] deserve to be able to say: "Hey, we're clean. And not only are we clean but we're held to the highest standard". I feel bad for athletes from those countries, because they don't have the ability to say that.'

Victor Conte, the mastermind behind the BALCO steroid scandal, met with former WADA chairman **** Pound in December to share inside information on athletes' doping practice. Conte believes more out-of-competition testing is needed to help curtail use of illegal performance-enchancing drugs.

On December 12, 2007, I advised WADA's **** Pound to routinely send disguised drug testers to Jamaica, and to begin doing so immediately. I had received information about a specific drug supplier - WADA received this person's name, address and phone number - who was allegedly working with elite track athletes. I also explained to Pound the importance of "offseason" testing and that testing at competitions is ineffective. The offseason is when athletes use anabolic steroids in conjunction with intensive weight training and develop the explosive strength base that serves them throughout the competitive season.

I have no evidence of doping by any of the winners of medals in Beijing, but when times begin falling like rain, questions arise, especially when the record-setters are from countries such as Jamaica and other Caribbean nations where there is no independent anti-doping federation.

Again, I have no knowledge that these individuals were involved in wrongdoing. All I know is that they and other athletes come from regions where minimal offseason testing is administered.

The IAAF - track's governing body - claims to rarely collect offseason samples for drug testing in Caribbean countries, mainly collecting out-of-competition (OOC) samples between competitions during the European track circuit from May until September of each year. In my opinion, this is basically a waste of funds and the same as in-competition testing because there is no routine offseason testing from October to January, when athletes who are cheating use steroids in combination with intensive weight training.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...eason-steroid-testing-article-1.316640?pgno=1

Conte said he believed the success of Jamaica's athletes could also be attributed to dubious methods.

"At the 2001 world championships athletes from a Caribbean country, not Jamaica, told me how a doctor from their team supplied them with testosterone, EPO (erythropoietin) and other kinds of steroids.

"I know, because I went to him and he gave me EPO.

"The same informer tells me now that before Beijing (Olympic Games in 2008) that the Jamaicans were applying the same protocol that I created at BALCO.

"I don't have proof, but all you need to do is look at the results: I strongly suspect (Usain) Bolt, and the others (Jamaicans)."

Conte, who has claimed that current anti-doping procedures are inept, said he could give one example of where the drug testers are going wrong.

He explained having pointed out "the period during which tests should be intensified: the last third of a year before a major event. If they (testers) think they're going to catch cheats at the Olympic Games or a world championships, they are kidding themselves."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/l...-finalists-doped/story-fn9dheyx-1226172423938

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

But he's always clearly had talent, African-born who has been the man to beat largely for those last two years. My favourite British gold

And mine is the long jumper. By a lightyear. Same length as Ralph Boston´s record from 1964. He must be clean, otherwise i´ll lose all hope in everything.

 

[roundabout]

What's up with long jumping anyway? No money to be won?

And where did all the people who beat the Olympic champion last year go? All 14 of them

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

I hope Felix finally gets her 200 m gold medal. She looks shockingly normal for a top tier sprinter (unlike everyone else at that level), so I'm gonna go ahead and just assume she's the cleanest.

 

[The Hitch]

Oh and i kind of hope this continues as i would love a open top bus parade to celebrate all the golds Britain win ala Canada vancouver 2010, as it would be great to see real athletes get some recognition here, and not just spoilt brat footballers.

 

[thehog]

What about that British long jumper? PEDs or what?

 

[sniper]

And mine is the long jumper. By a lightyear. Same length as Ralph Boston´s record from 1964. He must be clean, otherwise i´ll lose all hope in everything.

How is a clean white guy going to jump 8.31?

 

[mb2612]

Long Jump is essentially random, all those guys could have won with their PB, they just need it to be their day to go big

 

[JimmyFingers]

I like Farah too and hope his win brings more people into the sport, but one cant deny that for the most part, British athletes seem to be finding an extra 10% in this olympics over previous years. Maybe it could just be luck or the extra funding or the support, but it cannot be denied that for this olympics, that the physical limits of British athletes compared to the rest of the competition, have increased drastically. Just look at the rower who got silver 3 times, and now at 37 she and her partner just fly away. The cyclists all breaking world records. Ennis making a challenge for the 100m hurdles individual. etc etc etc.

err, home field advantage? (and I hate to use an Americanism)

Clearly performing on home soil in front of very vocal and passionate support lifts athletes. Listen to that crowd cheer Ennis as she receives her gold and tell me that doesn't drive you forward to greater endeavour?

I find it hard to understand why GB's achievements are so difficult to take: we did finish fourth in the medal table in Beijing, and now many of the same athletes are in front of a home crowd. Plus lottery money has pumped huge amounts of funding into UK sport. But the easier explanation is of course dope, every last man(and women)-jack of them.

I just think that is crazy

 

[spalco]

And mine is the long jumper. By a lightyear. Same length as Ralph Boston´s record from 1964. He must be clean, otherwise i´ll lose all hope in everything.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/five_rin...mping_shorter_distances_.html?wpisrc=obinsite

I think the drugs explanation makes the most sense. I mean Florence Griffith-Joyner, Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Galina Chistyakova were clearly drugged up to the brim. It's no coincidence their ancient records still stand.

But I would like Bolt or some of the other Jamaicans at least try the long jump. Maybe they don't get the record, but 8.31? Come on...

 

[JimmyFingers]

How is a clean white guy going to jump 8.31?

You stay classy