Official London Olympics Doping thread

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Jul 17, 2010
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elapid said:
I'm going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons: I'm glad Vino won. He won with great style in a great race. He served his time. While some may want lifetime bans for first offences, that is not the case and he is racing legally and according to all the rules of the game. If Vino is racing clean, he is showing that a clean rider can win big races like the Olympics RR. That should be some reason for hope.

Agreed. I've always admired Vino for his combativeness and willing to take chances, doped or not. Rest of field played it too conservatively.

Feel bad for Cancellera - tough break.

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Jun 7, 2011
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elapid said:
I'm going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons: I'm glad Vino won. He won with great style in a great race. He served his time. While some may want lifetime bans for first offences, that is not the case and he is racing legally and according to all the rules of the game. If Vino is racing clean, he is showing that a clean rider can win big races like the Olympics RR. That should be some reason for hope.

He is a doper who upholds omerta, and offers bribes during races. Looking forward to his retirement.
 
Aug 18, 2009
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Really though, he was at the top of the sport with presumably EPO, transfusions, hormones, whatever. Got banned, stopped using PEDs and made his way back to the top of the sport in his late 30s? Nah although he didn't do anything extraordinary today.

I'm stating the obvious, but just for the sake of even-handedness. I take the point that people are very protective of their favourite old-school dopers.
 
Nov 4, 2010
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Like someone once said...

'I like Vino. When he goes racing, he goes RACING'.

Or something like that.
Strongest/bravest rider on the day, and read the race to perfection. Great race to watch too.
 
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taiwan said:
Really though, he was at the top of the sport with presumably EPO, transfusions, hormones, whatever. Got banned, stopped using PEDs and made his way back to the top of the sport in his late 30s? Nah although he didn't do anything extraordinary today.

I'm stating the obvious, but just for the sake of even-handedness. I take the point that people are very protective of their favourite old-school dopers.

Hard to say that winning Olympic Gold makes you top of the sport, especially when you look at who he topped: Uran, Kristoff, and Phinney.

I could not watch the race live, but its sounds as if Vino was more savvy than brutish in his win.
 
Sep 18, 2010
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Apparently tomorrow's Guardian will have an article written by Vino called, "I would never dope (again) because it would cost me everything", where he explains why his wife would leave him if he failed a drugs test.
 
May 26, 2010
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Dalakhani said:
Apparently tomorrow's Guardian will have an article written by Vino called, "I would never dope (again) because it would cost me everything", where he explains why his wife would leave him if he failed a drugs test.

:D

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Mar 10, 2009
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Dalakhani said:
Apparently tomorrow's Guardian will have an article written by Vino called, "I would never dope (again) because it would cost me everything", where he explains why his wife would leave him if he failed a drugs test.

Worse, he wouldn't become prime minister.

That's why these arguments are as useless as... can't be bothered to think of an analogy.
 
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I thought Vinos victory today was more of a smart racer who was in the right places at the right time who had the panache to pull it off, not a freakishly strong doped up rider.

Of course he could be doping, he could

or maybe not.

Personally, I thought it was a great, very entertaining race that defied predictions.

Looking forward to the ladies. :)
 
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Vino followed the right move at the right time, and saw exactly what Urán was trying to do to him in the straight. Of course I am not going to boldly declare that a man with his history in a sport with this history is clean, but this was not a result achieved by pure power. Pure power spent 6 hours on the front achieving nothing at all today.
 
Aug 18, 2009
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More Strides than Rides said:
Hard to say that winning Olympic Gold makes you top of the sport, especially when you look at who he topped: Uran, Kristoff, and Phinney.

I could not watch the race live, but its sounds as if Vino was more savvy than brutish in his win.

He did win LBL. Never looked like a GT contender much since his return though.
 
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What out of comp testing do countries like China and North Korea have? Are China the new East Germany?
 
Oct 30, 2011
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Zam_Olyas said:
World record by Ye at women's 400m individual medley..16 yrs old

I have also just watched about 4 races in a row go really close to the WR, and now a WR. Crazy.
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
World record by Ye at women's 400m individual medley..16 yrs old

:eek: the "analysts" are referring to doping lol, in swimming :eek: lol
Although she is chinese so I guess its ok:rolleyes:

(although to be fair that last 100m it looked like a Ricco moment was incredible)
 
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User Guide said:
:eek: the "analysts" are referring to doping lol, in swimming :eek: lol
Although she is chinese so I guess its ok:rolleyes:

(although to be fair that last 100m it looked like a Ricco moment was incredible)

What???

.......
 
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User Guide said:
:eek: the "analysts" are referring to doping lol, in swimming :eek: lol
Although she is chinese so I guess its ok:rolleyes:

(although to be fair that last 100m it looked like a Ricco moment was incredible)

Are you watching the BBC? When the presenter asked about "What questions marks does this raise?" and the ex-swimmer sort of side-shuffled and said that beating her PB by 5s was standard, that seemed like a dope question. Perhaps that is just the ears of a sceptical cycling fan, though.
 
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Caruut said:
Are you watching the BBC? When the presenter asked about "What questions marks does this raise?" and the ex-swimmer sort of side-shuffled and said that beating her PB by 5s was standard, that seemed like a dope question. Perhaps that is just the ears of a sceptical cycling fan, though.

Yes BBC, she was definetly asking "the Q" he was definetly side stepping it.
Cynical cycling fan or not that was extra ordinary