Official thread- TDF Stage 7 Barcelone - Andorre Arcalis 224km

[Futuroscope]

regarding lance comments on contadors attack..what a bunch of bull****. why should alberto hold back when he obviously had the legs to attack?

 

[RightWingNutJob]

OK, just watched the attack again. The motorbike bullsh!t is totally busted. He accelerated hard and the motorbike was there very shortly, but moved up quite fast. By the time Schleck tried to cover, the motorbike was well ahead of Contador. Schleck is another sour grape eater.

I'll have to watch again. Last time I was just watching AC vs. Schleck accelerating. Schleck had him pegged for a little while but couldn't gain ground or hold it.

 

[Bala Verde]

I'll start quoting German sources more often from now on.

Interesting though that Der Spiegel didn't even mention Marin once or any of the big guns outside of Astana.

@Bala Verde
The ones who see the truth should not confuse the dark side with the light one!

Oh btw.
Do you understand the language or do you trust google or similar stuff?

Yeah, funny that Martin thing. He is the big and upcoming guy, and they just ignore him (for some 'cycling related ilness' perhaps?). What about Froehlinger. He put in an amazing effort and is still really young..

I don't use google translator, I understand German quite well. Quite happy with it especially when one wants to stay informed. Do you know this site?. Very educational

 

[Futuroscope]

Actually I wonder if there can be made any judgements upon today results.
Arcalis is redicoulisly flat for an HC climb and a 11 guy's group of favs tells you that the tempo wasn't high long enough...
Maybe Martin, Wiggins and Lance totally blow away tomorrow.
Maybe the'll take the stage win...

thats true, but im just talking about today...evans attacked so did wiggins and schleck (although he couldnt go with contador)..and i think lance looked very strong and focused.

 

[Anonymous]

And to all the TFF haters out there, I am more accurate than Phil. Maybe you could turn your heads next time you are sniffing Lance's chamois and put in a good word for me?

 

[Wheels Go Round and Round]

And to all the TFF haters out there, I am more accurate than Phil. Maybe you could turn your heads next time you are sniffing Lance's chamois and put in a good word for me?

you use the word hate like it really means something..... actually douchebag is more your style

waiting anxiously for your next pathetic reply

 

[Anonymous]

you use the word hate like it really means something..... actually douchebag is more your style

waiting anxiously for your next pathetic reply

Dude, I am just asking a favor. And I agree, you are not a "hater" as much as you are a douche bag. Good to see you finally on board.

Hey, I am going to ignore the rest of the chamois sniffing little pouters, and just read your posts. I will have them funnel their posts through you. Your whole "living on the edge" tough guy routine really turns me on. I'll bet you are one sweet lookin' chick.

 

[Cobblestones]

Oh btw.
Do you understand the language or do you trust google or similar stuff?

Google Schmoogle. Ich lese die Spiegel Webseite jeden Tag. Eines der besten Nachrichtenmagazine der Welt.

 

[Padeiro]

How ignorant is espn, two dickheads, just said that nobody gives a crap about cycling unless lance is racing

Sadly this is very true in the US.

 

[Futuroscope]

top 5 will be

1. contador
2. armstrong
3. schleck
4. sastre
5. evans (probably second place if you dont count the team TT)

 

[auscyclefan94]

Bad Tatics

I think it was stuoid for the over teams not to work with each other in yesterdays stage against Astana. The schlecks did nothing, nothing from Sastre and i thought Menchov would definetly have a go. The only real agression i saw was Evans and Van den Broeck. If the schleck bros or sastre want to win the race the must work with the other teams to isolate Astana. Very negative defensive riding.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Google Schmoogle. Ich lese die Spiegel Webseite jeden Tag. Eine der besten Nachrichtenmagazine der Welt.

Das stimmt nicht. Der Spiegel ist so langweilig. (Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut)

 

[oncearunner]

Google Schmoogle. Ich lese die Spiegel Webseite jeden Tag. Eine der besten Nachrichtenmagazine der Welt.

I prefer Die Zeit. That being said the Spiegel article was 9/10 about a subject that apparently belongs in another sub-forum and, in any case, Der Spiegel is hardly authoritative.

Looking forward to tomorrow's stage in any case.

 

[RightWingNutJob]

Flash................

 

[Cobblestones]

I prefer Die Zeit. That being said the Spiegel article was 9/10 about a subject that apparently belongs in another sub-forum and, in any case, Der Spiegel is hardly authoritative.

Looking forward to tomorrow's stage in any case.

'Der Spiegel', aber 'die Webseite'. Dein Deutsch ist nicht so gut.

 

[Dirty South]

Watching the post race comment from Levi makes me beleive that he wasn't too happy by AC attack either. Sounds like AC may have made a big mistake in keeping team unity.

It seems there's only team unity if everyone expresses their support of LA, which is very disappointing. Also, he has gone back and forth most of this year about his commitment in supporting AC's riding to win the Tour. He's admitted AC is the best rider in the world, and AC has won a major race already this year, not to mention all 3 tours in recent years. LA has attempted to win the Vuelta and the Giro in separate years and has come up short. So, why is AC all of a sudden unqualified? Also, in the years LA's done well in Tour mountaintop finishes, he's had the team to just ride and shred riders for him throughout the stage. Same scenario today, but why didn't it work this time? I just saw the replay of stage 7 and when CE tried to attack after AC's counter-attack, LA had trouble coming around LL. It wasn't until CE backed off a bit that LA was able to make a slight bit of progress. I would think that if he was still trying to hold onto 2nd place he would have moved up to 2nd position behind CE on that 2nd attack. Then it would look as though he's not chasing AC, yet minimizing the time gap. So, AC is obviously the strongest rider (don't forget, while LA was realizing he wasn't going to win the Giro, AC was busy studying the Tour's mountaintop finishes - LA's old game plan.) And JB, LA, AC, and the rest of Astana said that the strongest rider would determine who the leader would be and stage 7 would be the first proving ground. It's obvious that LL is drinking the LA kool-aid. So, AC can't expect any support from him.

Note to LA, just because you dress up like Lance Armstrong doesn't mean you are him.

 

[indurain666]

Contador is not a fool, he knows the traditions of teams and the yellow jersey, if LA got that jersey today, LA would have then become the team leader and the only remaining chance he would have had to beat LA would be the TT. Contador is a 3 time GT champion for a reason, he knew that after LA's time gain on stage 3, he had to get back that time today, period, end of story. Now he has placed himself at the front of the team again and once he pulls on the yellow, that will be game over for LA. LA knows this, hence why he was ****ed off and used the media for his passive aggressive war with AC.

LA-"That wasn't really to the plan, but I didn't expect him to go by the plan, so [it was] no surprise."

For a champion like LA, that is a pretty pathetic statement to make. Sorry but not everybody is going to roll over and let him win, especially AC who has his own ambitions of glory.

LA needs to stop playing this media game, I cheered for him for 7 straight tours, but I'm feeling different about this one. What did he honestly expect the winner of all 3 grand tours was going to do??

Finally someone is making some sense in this thread, I could not agree more.

PS: All these guys have never watched the Tour

 

[RightWingNutJob]

Note to LA, just because you dress up like Lance Armstrong doesn't mean you are him.

What......

 

[dadoorsron]

top 5 will be

1. contador
2. armstrong
3. schleck
4. sastre
5. evans (probably second place if you dont count the team TT)

1. armstrong ( well I can hope) probably Contador!
2. Armstrong.
3. Levi Leipheimer.
4 Kldoen
5 Sastre
6 Schleck

 

[indurain666]

Descending abilities is one area where we know Armstrong is better than Contador. TT so far = Contador. Climbing = . .??? Did today really answer that question?? There are three stages where abilities as a descender could make some time . . . especially if its only 2 seconds. I can see LA making up the 2 seconds on descending alone on some of the descents in these stages . . . . 13, 16, 17
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=1961

Dude you are soooooo wrong

 

[dadoorsron]

It seems there's only team unity if everyone expresses their support of LA, which is very disappointing. Also, he has gone back and forth most of this year about his commitment in supporting AC's riding to win the Tour. He's admitted AC is the best rider in the world, and AC has won a major race already this year, not to mention all 3 tours in recent years. LA has attempted to win the Vuelta and the Giro in separate years and has come up short. So, why is AC all of a sudden unqualified? Also, in the years LA's done well in Tour mountaintop finishes, he's had the team to just ride and shred riders for him throughout the stage. Same scenario today, but why didn't it work this time? I just saw the replay of stage 7 and when CE tried to attack after AC's counter-attack, LA had trouble coming around LL. It wasn't until CE backed off a bit that LA was able to make a slight bit of progress. I would think that if he was still trying to hold onto 2nd place he would have moved up to 2nd position behind CE on that 2nd attack. Then it would look as though he's not chasing AC, yet minimizing the time gap. So, AC is obviously the strongest rider (don't forget, while LA was realizing he wasn't going to win the Giro, AC was busy studying the Tour's mountaintop finishes - LA's old game plan.) And JB, LA, AC, and the rest of Astana said that the strongest rider would determine who the leader would be and stage 7 would be the first proving ground. It's obvious that LL is drinking the LA kool-aid. So, AC can't expect any support from him.

Note to LA, just because you dress up like Lance Armstrong doesn't mean you are him.

riders didn't fall off so badly because that climb wasn't that tough. (for Professional cyclist)! it was long but the grade easied at the top giving them a break. That's one reason why contadors 21 second take off wasn't impressive and puts to question his maturity and lack of good team tactics.

 

[Dirty South]

What......

It's sarcasm. It means that LA is no longer the Lance Armstrong who won 7 tours. He just hasn't realized it yet. It's the beginning of the curse that occurs when you decide to affect your legacy...it happened to Jordan, Sugar Ray Leonard, Brett Favre, etc. Notice that we haven't heard many quotes from Merckx, Indurain, or Hinault regarding LA's comeback?

 

[indurain666]

Today??? Exactly. What was he supposed to do attack his own team mate who has already pi$$ed away a team plan which was working to perfection??? That would have been dumb and looked very bad. ("Gee I know I'll compound the stupid mistake my Astana team mate made by riding draft and pulling the rest of the non-Astana GC contenders up to him . . . .") LA didn't follow AC because he is a smart bike rider not because he couldn't . . . at least for today.

We know that when A. Schleck and C.Evans went, LA covered them easily so he obviously had some gas in the tank. Fact that AC drafted behind some motorcycles into a headwind to get 2 seconds on him doesn't mean very much in terms of answering the question. No doubt AC looked good. But so did LA. And the question of whether LA can hange with AC on a climb when both are going all out . . . still hasn't been answered.

Oh god...

 

[oncearunner]

'Der Spiegel', aber 'die Webseite'. Dein Deutsch ist nicht so gut.

...an Die spiegel.de Webseite gelesen...

In any case the race should be enjoyable don't you think?

 

[RightWingNutJob]

And the question of whether LA can hange with AC on a climb when both are going all out . . . still hasn't been answered.

This is true! We will find out soon enough.