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Valv.Piti said:
To quote hrotha on the first stage, Tour de Fukushima this upcoming July. Valverde disappointed a few months after that comment suffering through the cold and rainy Tour of 2014 when he had all the chances in the world of grabbing stages and podium. Pretty sure he won't this year...

Pretty sure he said he had family problems during that Tour and had zero motivation.

Also said he had the same problems all year 2013.

Benotti69 said:
at this rate Valverde to win 5 TdFs in a row...............

And he'd still be younger than Vuelta Moto-Horner :lol:
 

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I like Valverde as he is the anti-new-generation-Vaughters detox Kool-Aid. Too much of JV then just take a sip of icey-cool Valverde in a can and you know the old generation is alive and still kicking :lol:
 
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thehog said:
I like Valverde as he is the anti-new-generation-Vaughters detox Kool-Aid. Too much of JV then just take a sip of icey-cool Valverde in a can and you know the old generation is alive and still kicking :lol:

In a few years Dawg will start to decline, a good chance for Valverde to win Le Tour.
 
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Rollthedice said:
thehog said:
I like Valverde as he is the anti-new-generation-Vaughters detox Kool-Aid. Too much of JV then just take a sip of icey-cool Valverde in a can and you know the old generation is alive and still kicking :lol:

In a few years Dawg will start to decline, a good chance for Valverde to win Le Tour.

Maybe he already started. We can only know retroactively
 
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BYOP88 said:
Another stage win for Piti. Pretty sure he's won almost as many races/stages since he returned from his ban.

Sorry to say but you are wrong on this one. Pre ban he had 44 pro wins compared to post ban which he has a paltry 44 pro wins ;)
 
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TeflonDub said:
silvergrenade said:
TeflonDub said:
The new marginal gains are going to be front wings to provide enough downforce to combat the kind of oversteer Piti suffered at the last hairpin today. Had to lift off the gas for a long time to steer safely up the mountain.
https://youtu.be/_q7a5ZO8nmE

Missing F1?
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I woke this morning to find a lot of other people missing F1, apparently, as the footage of that freewheeling around the final switchback is doing the rounds now.

I don't see anything that screams motor doping in that footage, seen similar things by riders on steeper grades going through corners over the years and more than one occasion actually braking. I doubt they were motor doping, I say watching Valverde do what he did is down to good old jet fueled doping
 
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Will ASO want a TeamSky scandal at this years TdF? maybe not and Movistar gets the nod and Valverde gets his TdF win.
 
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Looks to me like the great training effect from riding at the sharp end of three GTs in one season, is reaping its rewards for Valverde this spring. That, along with pretty weak opposition, seems the most logical explanation for his great results.

I struggle to believe his doping has radically changed - he's in his late 30s and was already at an insane level before this season, consistently winning big races - why mess around with the program that he had?
 
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Irondan said:
Wow, Valverde has a secret that the peloton would give anything to know what it is...

FFS, he's the best rider in the world right now!
Best rider right now? Hes been nº1 UCI for four or five years, I dont remember well. This man has been in the elite of cycling since he passed to profesionals.
 
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Fernandez said:
Irondan said:
Wow, Valverde has a secret that the peloton would give anything to know what it is...

FFS, he's the best rider in the world right now!
Best rider right now? Hes been nº1 UCI for four or five years, I dont remember well. This man has been in the elite of cycling since he passed to profesionals.

And even before that he was crushing everyone. He just doesn't know how to do anything else :lol:
 
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Fernandez said:
Irondan said:
Wow, Valverde has a secret that the peloton would give anything to know what it is...

FFS, he's the best rider in the world right now!
Best rider right now? Hes been nº1 UCI for four or five years, I dont remember well. This man has been in the elite of cycling since he passed to profesionals.
Meh, having the most points in a season does not mean they're the best rider in the world. It just means they gathered the most points.

Being the "best" means winning races, which is what he's doing now more than he ever has at this point in the season (I think..). He has nine wins already (twelve if you include points and mountains competitions) and it's only the beginning of April? Holy ***! This is not a joke!
 
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DFA123 said:
Looks to me like the great training effect from riding at the sharp end of three GTs in one season, is reaping its rewards for Valverde this spring. That, along with pretty weak opposition, seems the most logical explanation for his great results.

I struggle to believe his doping has radically changed - he's in his late 30s and was already at an insane level before this season, consistently winning big races - why mess around with the program that he had?

Good post, I have the same feelings. I also struggle to understand if people think he's like the only one doping, or the objection is that it's still working at his age? He's always been a class rider, whatever level he's been at. Doesn't surprise that he's still going well. I'm not a big fan of Valverde in any way, but I struggle to find him objectionable in a peloton where far more absurd and unlikely riders seem to do well.

Agree the level in general is not the highest we've seen in recent decades.
 
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DFA123 said:
Looks to me like the great training effect from riding at the sharp end of three GTs in one season, is reaping its rewards for Valverde this spring. That, along with pretty weak opposition, seems the most logical explanation for his great results.

I struggle to believe his doping has radically changed - he's in his late 30s and was already at an insane level before this season, consistently winning big races - why mess around with the program that he had?

You mean the great effect of many years of heavy doping abuse. Doping has a long term effect. He should have been banned permanently, like all the rest, including Contador.

Maybe the peloton is cleaner, but some renegades like Valverde refuse to back down on the doping abuse.
 
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Fernandez said:
Irondan said:
Wow, Valverde has a secret that the peloton would give anything to know what it is...

FFS, he's the best rider in the world right now!
Best rider right now? Hes been nº1 UCI for four or five years, I dont remember well. This man has been in the elite of cycling since he passed to profesionals.

He only won the WT ranking twice.
 
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Last year was a bit harder to judge with an unusual race program, but he has been getting better year after year after his ban (and he is soon 37!). That's just not normal, doping or no doping.
 
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Pretty obvious he isn't doing something out of the ordinary. He just has 1%, maybe 2% more than he has had in previous years and the luck necessary to pull it off. Pretty much only facing Contador in these stages races and he is past his prime (still a mighty fine one week rider but still). Also has a lot better of a program than what he has had the last many years - finally he is racing these races. Las year, only T-A when the mountain was cancelled.

Its too easy to say he has found a wonder drug and call him a fraud..
 
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Hopefully it'll be the Valverde vs Gilbert show at Amstel.

Would be great to see two doped up Mid 30s legends going toe to toe.