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Teams & Riders Official Wout Van Aert thread

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KZD said:
In Jumbo's best season ever, Van Aert manages to miss all of his goals.

In MSR, RVV and PR he was the leader and didn't manage to win any of them
In the Tour, the green jersey was not a goal anymore but winning a stage was, he is failed to do that.
In the World Championships, he was Belgium's leader and once again, Van der Poel was stronger than him. In the TT, didn't even manage a podium.
Finally, the European Championships could have saved his season (it would never have been a success anyway) and... another second place.

Luckily for him, he should get one extra opportunity with the Olympics next year, but he always seems to miss something in the moment of truth. Maybe he will switch teams for 2025, but I just think he is not as good as some people think, at least as a one day racer.
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Is he still planning to do the gravel worlds? Still a chance to save the season if so. ;)
 
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Wout has 33 wins and 28 2nd places at World Tour level. This year he had only 2 wins and 5 2nd places. He knows how to win but this season was just not great.
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Lol just cam here as I wanted to ask how many 1st and 2nd places he has. So thanks! Not to bad for WT level. Anyone knows how much it is overall in his professional career? Disregard CX given al 2nd places after Mathieu
 
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tobydawq said:
I don't care if you root for Van Aert at some points of the season when you're so ridiculously biased against him for the rest. And yes, E3 winner is not what he is, either, and you know that. He is so much more and there is no way you would describe him as x race winner rather than to belittle him.

If he didn't have to ride for a GC rider, he could probably chase the record of most wins in a single Tour (at least with his 2022 level), but now he just has to do donkey work. Of course that is extremely frustrating for his fans.

And of course it was maddening to see Van der Poel being wasted like that as well. I sure hope people were also outspoken against that. I know I was, especially in Limoges when he might have been able to win. The difference is, that apart from that stage, I don't really think he cold have contended for the wins in a scenario where he was not a helper.
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You're a rider as much as you last season are. So no, he's not much more than E3 winner, he's exactly that atm.
 
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tobydawq said:
Yes, I agree with that. I still think he is the fastest, though. He just has to make the sprint long enough to benefit from that because Mathieu obviously has the better jump.
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I kind of think that too, but do you really mean he doesn't know that already? I mean' he was sprinting against that guy since he was 13/14 year-old. It's not that easy... Who has most in the tank, he wins.
 
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tobydawq said:
@Salvarani

Did you watch their sprint at E3 or were your eyes filled with tears from all the laughter from Wout's certain upcoming defeat.
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Lol, you have to relax. I just found your immediate "yes" amusing. I havent read this discussion that you have had.

Sure he won E3. How about all the other times MVDP have beaten him in pretty much every big race that truly matters, where he was much stronger than Wout.

E3 is prestigious... but it is still "only" the warm-up to Ronde.
 
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Salvarani said:
Lol, you have to relax. I just found your immediate "yes" amusing. I havent read this discussion that you have had.

Sure he won E3. How about all the other times MVDP have beaten him in pretty much every big race that truly matters, where he was much stronger than Wout.

E3 is prestigious... but it is still the "only" the warm-up to Ronde.
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I think this was specifically a discussion about the chances in a sprint. I'm not saying he is the favourite against Van der Poel generally in one-day races, I'm not stupid.

Their Ronde sprint shows how tight it can be.

And it's not like Mathieu's sprint at the end of those races is a given success either, let's not forget he has lost sprints to people like Asgreen and Florian Vermeersch.
 
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So you think nothing from that sprint can be used as a predictor for a 2-up sprint?
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Sure it can, but Pogi leading the trio from 1.3 km to go until Pogi launched the sprint with 14" from the line kept the speed up while Van Aert could start from behind Van der Poel. That wouldn't have happened H2H. If Van der Poel leads the two, he controls the speed. Otherwise Van Aert has to start from the front.
 
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