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Olympic Road Race (men’s) 2024 (August 3rd)

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2024 is the year of the doubles

Van der Poel- Flanders and Roubaix
Pogačar- Giro and Tour
Remco- Olympic TT and RR

Legendary Olympics from Remco. If it wasn't for Pogačar Giro-Tour double, it would have been the most impressive feat of the last years. He looked so strong today that I doubt anyone would have beaten him including Pogačar himself.

Great race from the French team winning two medals is the best they could have done and unless mistaken its already Laporte's third medal riding for his country. Good race from Healy and Jorgenson too.

Disappointed with Van der Poel he lacked some gas for the last 30km or so where he is usually deadly. The fact that the Dutch team only had three riders also didn't help his cause. Denmark also a bit disappointing despite some bad luck.
 
I for one don't get a level of disgust for many popular racers, Remco included. If you don't listen to race audio, take in propaganda both positive and negative about a rider if you watch Remco on the bike, it's almost perfection realized. Guy is constantly positive, he dictates, he attacks, has tools not available to all and uses different things. His TT skills are obviously second to none currently. He has gold medal for defined TT and today he got a gap and did another TT, including a bicycle circus move of a bike swap!!
Seeing 90 degree elbows, flat back, cadence turning over a massive gear, everything pointed in a straight line always and his capacity to suffer at unhuman levels... Jealous? Sure but you can say dislike but not hate the guy if you like racing!!
The guy is almost a dorf and can spin a 58!!! My legs begin to smoke and bleed after turning over a 52x15 after a few minutes of hard effort!! I don't love the guy but he is great!!
Everything is available!! If you want to measure yourself or favorite racer against Remco data points are all available.. He rides at an almost impossible level!!!
Great post! It gets ridiculous sometimes on here. It doesnt matter who, there are always these facebook level cheap shots by people.
 
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Pidcocks post race comments are interesting said the mountain bike race took a lot out of him, understandably

But this feels like a dig at the BC & selection "we're all British and we all know each other, but we don't race on the road together and we had no radios. We only get one chance of this when you're in a road team - here you only get one shot at the Olympics. It's important to be able to work together as a team."

Then literally says the plan was just to go and have fun

13th. Tom Pidcock (6:21:24)
31st. Stevie Williams (6:23:16)
43rd. Fred Wright (6:26:57)
47th. Josh Tarling (6:26:57)
 
I'm late to the party. Brilliant race.
Remco's taken such a massive step forward this year. He had to be supremely confident after his TdF and the TT gold. He simply rode others off his wheel today. At this point, Pog and Remco are 1-2 as overall top racers in the pro peloton. WvA is 3rd, even though he's had a tough season since the crash. MvdP has been invisible since the spring classics.

Anyway, I like Tom Pidcock, but he's like Remco except with a bigger mouth and smaller legs.
 
I mean, preparing and peaking just for the Olympics was de facto a mistake, because this race is such a lottery that there is no preparing. You need a lot of luck to win, more so than in other races. For example, I don't think Mathieu can look back at this race and say that he made a mistake. He did exactly what he had to do: attack on Montmartre. Yet he never saw the front of the race.

There is so little control a rider is very limited in what it can do. The likely situation was always going to be that a group of semi-favorites (although I expected different names up front, tbh), were going to get a gap on the local circuit. If you are basically a one man team and can't outright drop everyone, you're pretty much doomed. The race is just one paradox. The route was probably the easiest we've ever had in the Olympics, which made it the hardest if you are the 5* favourite.

This is why I've been questioning the choice of Mathieu to go all in on this race for a while. It might hold not as much prestige, but gold was up for grabs in XCO. Trying to combine the two would have made a lot more sense, to me at least.
 
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I'm late to the party. Brilliant race.
Remco's taken such a massive step forward this year. He had to be supremely confident after his TdF and the TT gold. He simply rode others off his wheel today. At this point, Pog and Remco are 1-2 as overall top racers in the pro peloton. WvA is 3rd, even though he's had a tough season since the crash. MvdP has been invisible since the spring classics.

Anyway, I like Tom Pidcock, but he's like Remco except with a bigger mouth and smaller legs.

It's as if people have completely forgotten about Wollongong and Liège '22 and '23.

The underestimation of Remco this year has been surreal.
 
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Pidcocks post race comments are interesting said the mountain bike race took a lot out of him, understandably

But this feels like a dig at the BC & selection "we're all British and we all know each other, but we don't race on the road together and we had no radios. We only get one chance of this when you're in a road team - here you only get one shot at the Olympics. It's important to be able to work together as a team."

Then literally says the plan was just to go and have fun

13th. Tom Pidcock (6:21:24)
31st. Stevie Williams (6:23:16)
43rd. Fred Wright (6:26:57)
47th. Josh Tarling (6:26:57)
Well the hot take here is the reason the XCO took a lot out of Pidcock is because that is what he has been preparing for and focusing on ... I think he has said so himself. Considering he and Josh ride on the same team, and they had buckets of time to determine team tactics, I'd take his BC comments as classic BMW.

Pidcock is an absolute natural on the MTB - a beast and so technically smooth and adept ... so fun to watch on the XCO circuit. But he seems to regularly run his mouth in a jacka*sian way, and his legs often don't match his comments insofar as stage races. It has been beaten to death elsewhere, but they should really give up the ghost for GT leadership for him. Of course, that would likely mean a drop in salary (at least at Ineos), which I don't think Tommy could stomach.
 
I hope the broadcasters got excited! I was yelling F......................CK! the entire time the commercials were playing. I wanted to hear the fans on that climb. Gotta be chilling for Remco to have that boost of positive energy!
Pretty amazing coverage. Fortunately the CBC did not cut to commercials too much in the finale (but there were some questionable cuts to scenery by the host feed). The commentary was terrible though. One fella a) confused Remco repeatedly with Wout (like WTF) and then at one point around mid race, in an effort to say something he said - "oh there's a race official, blowing his whistle" ... LMFAO :p
 
Legend, never in doubt. Congrats to Remco and Belgium. Love when a hyped up talent delivers. And boy has Remco delivered in the last few weeks!

Before the race we said the strength of Belgium, the reduced team sizes and the course looked perfect for a Remco solo attack and that is exactly what happened. Just too strong. I don't get the hate either. Maybe two years ago I questioned he was being hyped by some, but I just totally respect any rider who is strong enough to do what he does.
 
I'm late to the party. Brilliant race.
Remco's taken such a massive step forward this year. He had to be supremely confident after his TdF and the TT gold. He simply rode others off his wheel today. At this point, Pog and Remco are 1-2 as overall top racers in the pro peloton. WvA is 3rd, even though he's had a tough season since the crash. MvdP has been invisible since the spring classics.

Anyway, I like Tom Pidcock, but he's like Remco except with a bigger mouth and smaller legs.
But he was pretty visible back then, and it was not too long ago...
 
Well the hot take here is the reason the XCO took a lot out of Pidcock is because that is what he has been preparing for and focusing on ... I think he has said so himself. Considering he and Josh ride on the same team, and they had buckets of time to determine team tactics, I'd take his BC comments as classic BMW.

Pidcock is an absolute natural on the MTB - a beast and so technically smooth and adept ... so fun to watch on the XCO circuit. But he seems to regularly run his mouth in a jacka*sian way, and his legs often don't match his comments insofar as stage races. It has been beaten to death elsewhere, but they should really give up the ghost for GT leadership for him. Of course, that would likely mean a drop in salary (at least at Ineos), which I don't think Tommy could stomach.

well I dont think Tom ever ran his mouth on this road race, the UK press might have talked up chances of a double medal but I dont recall him saying anything of the kind, and I think youve missed the point he made. none of the other favourites for this road race did the XCO, not even MVDP who youd have thought was guaranteed a medal. It was a daft selection choice to pick him for both XCO and road race, and BC didnt have to at all did they ?.

Pidcock was always going to defend his XCO title, so why did BC pick him for this race, they could have at least asked one of the Yates brothers, or G, maybe Oscar Onley and boost one of the other picks to team leader instead.

And this comes back to the point I made earlier about BC and its focus on road racing, in that basically they have none, and Pidcock makes the same point, they picked a bunch of Brits who ride on the road,who know each other as riders but actually never ride together (no BC training camp for them) and BC expect them in a race without radios to instinctively just know what each other is doing and react in the right way.

which is madness. you need to build a team and work together as a team to ensure you get the best results out of one off races like this, which is exactly what Belgium did

and yet we'll see an exact repeat of this lack of focus on the road race from BC in the womens race too.

at some point you cant blame the riders, you have to blame the system theyre working with
 
well I dont think Tom ever ran his mouth on this road race, the UK press might have talked up chances of a double medal but I dont recall him saying anything of the kind, and I think youve missed the point he made. none of the other favourites for this road race did the XCO, not even MVDP who youd have thought was guaranteed a medal. It was a daft selection choice to pick him for both XCO and road race, and BC didnt have to at all did they ?.

Pidcock was always going to defend his XCO title, so why did BC pick him for this race, they could have at least asked one of the Yates brothers, or G, maybe Oscar Onley and boost one of the other picks to team leader instead.

And this comes back to the point I made earlier about BC and its focus on road racing, in that basically they have none, and Pidcock makes the same point, they picked a bunch of Brits who ride on the road,who know each other as riders but actually never ride together (no BC training camp for them) and BC expect them in a race without radios to instinctively just know what each other is doing and react in the right way.

which is madness. you need to build a team and work together as a team to ensure you get the best results out of one off races like this, which is exactly what Belgium did

and yet we'll see an exact repeat of this lack of focus on the road race from BC in the womens race too.

at some point you cant blame the riders, you have to blame the system theyre working with
I think those are all valid points.

I also think they don't have a rider who could have won today, whatever the team makeup, allocations, or tactics.
 
For example, I don't think Mathieu can look back at this race and say that he made a mistake. He did exactly what he had to do: attack on Montmartre. Yet he never saw the front of the race.
MVDP is not a smart guy and I'm not so sure he is a good leader without race radio and sport directors

He lost control of the race and let big moves with riders from all major teams go up the road without him or his team being represented

Worked in Flanders in spring when he had 7 brilliant alpecin domestics and was racing against Garcia cortina and Dylen tuens

Won't work in a race like this against a rocket ship like remco and the belge pozzato marking you

Vdp races like a prime dutch pozzato today and although would have been difficult to win the race, he definitely made a mistake

Remco is a more intelligent rider in such a race, although the course was more on his favour today
 
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