Olympics 2020 (2021): Harder to dope in Japan?

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The odds is 35 that Rupp will win the marathon tomorrow. The Americans will definitely be in thermonuclear mode tomorrow as they need golds to overtake China on the medal table.

Dropped at 30.6km gone.

Edit: originally wrote "to go" rather than "gone"!
 
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I remember attending a running convention a decade ago that had Frank Shorter as a guest panelist. He was asked if he thought anybody could break 2hr in the marathon. His answer was rather succinct. 'Not clean'.
 
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One of my personal favourites this Games is Australian Marathoner Sinead Diver finishing 10th at 44yo. Gets better - she never did any competitive sport let alone athletics until 33yo. Also holds the Australian record of 2 hours 24 minutes, and has 2 children from before starting competition.

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One of my personal favourites this Games is Australian Marathoner Sinead Diver finishing 10th at 44yo. Gets better - she never did any competitive sport let alone athletics until 33yo. Also holds the Australian record of 2 hours 24 minutes, and has 2 children from before starting competition.

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What's the relevance to doping?
 
Facts? Schmacts! Never - ever - let reality get in the way of fantasies. Ever.


We don't need no stinkin' facts 'round here, this is the Clinic!

(For those not getting it: not testing positive don't mean an awful lot, we all know that. But it does mean he's been tested, contrariwise to what some would like folk to believe.)

Who do you think you are?

Obviously you think yourself so superior and important but all I can see is someone whose love for himself is over the top and who loves to put other people down on the internet to make himself feel better.

I wrote a statement that was mentioned on the website of the German public broadcaster ARD, not the most perfect, but a pretty decent source, similar to the BBC. I then put a questionmark behind it to get more information. And what do you do? You accuse me of "fantasies" that I would like to believe in your usual pretending-to-be-witty dismissive writing style.

I think the original source is the Times. If you have better information you can always write something like "that information is wrong, look here" or explain the backgrounds. Your tone is totally inappropriate although completely in line with 95% of your posts.

I could imagine Jacobs is not in a certain Tokyo target pool of athletes but still gets tested on another basis, most probably on a national level and maybe he's in another pool as well or maybe he even got into this very Tokyo pool later than others -

Anyway, you pretend you are interested in facts, but if that was your interest you would elucidate circumstances properly instead of doing what you do.
 
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What's the relevance to doping?
Get what you're saying but it can be another life factor to take into account for someone starting literally from scratch at such a late age unless she has an awesome husband/partner (doping or not I hope that's the case)
 
And what do you do? You accuse me of "fantasies" that I would like to believe in your usual pretending-to-be-witty dismissive writing style

I am not overly familiar with the posting style of the poster you replied to but to be fair a “pretending-to-be-witty dismissive writing style” is pretty normal in the CN forum over the years.

Sadly this style gets more appreciation than facts, logic and reason. Thanks for raising the level of discussion since you arrived.
 

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The AIU clearly states that the online database available on their site is not necessarily complete - https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/know-the-process/registered-testing-pool

*Please note that it cannot be guaranteed that the searchable database or downloadable files available on-line exactly reproduce the World Athletics Testing Pool List, it is therefore intended for information only and should not be relied upon from a legal perspective. Please contact whereabouts@athleticsintegrity.org for more information.

If Times UK/NYT/ARD haven’t contacted them then it’s a lazy very low quality journalism.

I’m sure the Times UK forgot to mention that the three British sprinters out of four who won silver are also not in the AIU's online database.
 
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I deleted the post almost immediately. I even refreshed the page to see there was no reply to it. I have no idea how anyone could quote it +20 minutes later after deleting the post.
You only have to click the "quote" button before it gets deleted. After that it doesn't matter if or when it gets deleted. The link to the post does die I believe.
 
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I deleted the post almost immediately. I even refreshed the page to see there was no reply to it. I have no idea how anyone could quote it +20 minutes later after deleting the post.
Sorry, I don’t know either—it just happened to be visible when I came on the thread. I shouldn’t have been snarky about it.
 
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The AIU clearly states that the online database available on their site is not necessarily complete - https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/know-the-process/registered-testing-pool



If Times UK/NYT/ARD haven’t contacted them then it’s a lazy very low quality journalism.

I’m sure the Times UK forgot to mention that the three British sprinters out of four who won silver are also not in the AIU's online database.

Those three outlets have consistently tried to slander Russian athletes over the last 6-7 years. It’s as if they working together. I wouldn’t trust a lot things they claim. It’s already been debunked.
 
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One of my personal favourites this Games is Australian Marathoner Sinead Diver finishing 10th at 44yo. Gets better - she never did any competitive sport let alone athletics until 33yo. Also holds the Australian record of 2 hours 24 minutes, and has 2 children from before starting competition.

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There's a fair number of examples of women excelling at endurance sports after taking them up later in life; not sure what having had children has to do with athletic performance.
 
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There's a fair number of examples of women excelling at endurance sports after taking them up later in life; not sure what having had children has to do with athletic performance.
There's excelling in later life, then there's setting a national record at 43
 
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CJ Ujah provisional positive though not saying exactly when. Better to lose your silver than a gold I suppose.
 
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"Olympic 100m champion Lamont Marcell Jacobs has said he will not compete again until next year.

In response to a question on social media about when he would next race, the 26-year-old responded with "2022".

Jacobs followed up his shock 100m victory in Tokyo with another gold as part of Italy's 4x100m relay team.

His manager Marcello Magnani said injury was not a factor in the decision to take a break, but the time off is a preventative measure."

 
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"Olympic 100m champion Lamont Marcell Jacobs has said he will not compete again until next year.

In response to a question on social media about when he would next race, the 26-year-old responded with "2022".

Jacobs followed up his shock 100m victory in Tokyo with another gold as part of Italy's 4x100m relay team.

His manager Marcello Magnani said injury was not a factor in the decision to take a break, but the time off is a preventative measure."

I was going to post the same, it sounds a bit strange. On the other hand he's set for life if he doesn't get busted and is probably going to milk that gold for the next few years. Overall he's gonna earn a few M per year for the next few years.
Italian media are super defensive about the whole track and field results, La Gazzetta (they keep getting trasier and trashier, a waste of paper) had a headline "hand's off our medals" that sounds like the worst that the British yellow press has to offer...