The Italians have clearly done something to bring about their sprinting performances and that something is almost certainly doping
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Are you sure?
yes, some quick research shows she had the baby in 2018.Are you sure?
Are you sure?
She is 36 years old & running faster than 5 years ago at the Olympics. Nothing to see here..
Well, Allyson Felix is 35. And 0.05s is not anything to really harp about in a 400m race. But she is clearly not the runner she was, but she compensates with a better running brain. The Jamaicans ran faster in the semis to their detriment. None of this really speaks to her cleanliness, which is doubtful IMO.She is 36 years old & running faster than 5 years ago at the Olympics. Nothing to see here..
I mean wasn't Gatlin still competitive at 37?
Maybe the most brazen and unrepentant doper in history.checks subforum
Absolute legend
Can you stop accusing women of doping just because they look a bit more muscular than some of their rivals or their belly shows baby stretches?
It's one thing if an athlete looks transformed to male when she wasn't looking like that before or when she's really looking extremely male while bringing incredible results, but the British pole vault athlete doesn't look suspicious and Kipyegon's belly has absolutely nothing to do with doping.
They may or may not dope, but these "hints" are nonsensical, the second even more than the first.
The shoes are better than five years ago, and that will certainly make a difference.
Well, Allyson Felix is 35. And 0.05s is not anything to really harp about in a 400m race. But she is clearly not the runner she was, but she compensates with a better running brain. The Jamaicans ran faster in the semis to their detriment. None of this really speaks to her cleanliness, which is doubtful IMO.
Out of curiosity, I looked up the oldest person to win a gold medal in the speed distances and the answer (AFAIK) is..... Michael Johnson. He was 33 in Sydney and ran a blistering 43.84 in the 400m and retired.
You are seriously cherrypicking if you think she is as good now as she was at 30. In 2016, she missed a lot of time due to a serious ankle injury. That is why she missed the 200m that year. Before that, she was splitting sub 48 in relays. If she does that tomorrow, we can talk.She’ll be 36 in November, so she’s much closer to 36 than 35. You're very deluded if you think an elite athlete at age 35/36 can run at the same level as she did at age 30.
No, they probably are all on some kind of program. But given that context, 400m is a sport that seems to allow older runners to compete, which makes sense given the demands of the race. Strength and guile matter more than the 100m and 200m.Are you really suggesting that the guy who ran the 400 meters in 43.18 seconds in 1999 was clean? His results are irrelevant & freak show
You are seriously cherrypicking if you think she is as good now as she was at 30. In 2016, she missed a lot of time due to a serious ankle injury. That is why she missed the 200m that year. Before that, she was splitting sub 48 in relays. If she does that tomorrow, we can talk.
Her PB is 49.26 from the 2015 world championship and she was only 2 tenths slower today. Enough said
Yeah, in that same meet, she split a 47.72 in the relay. If you watch the 2015 race, she absolutely blasts off for 150m, relaxes for 100m, then kicks into gear for the last 150. Very poorly paced. She also won that race comfortably by about a half second over Miller in a much slower field overall. Unlike the race today where she had to empty the tank because she was pushed all the way to fight for the podium. I don't know if you have been watching, but all the conditions in Japan have favored really fast times. Her time is consistent with a diminished but still high quality runner IMO.Her PB is 49.26 from the 2015 world championship and she was only 2 tenths slower today. Enough said
Uhm... Molly Seidel?
I just googled her. No significant results since turning pro. 27 years old. Leading much of this second half (I didn’t watch from the start). Something fishy here. She doesn’t look tired.
Love to see a Wisconsin girl mixing it up with the Kenyans.
that doesnt work in the clinic if you claim bikes are better now;The shoes are better than five years ago, and that will certainly make a difference.
With the level Kipyegon and Hassan has shown the last cpuple of years, it's actually an even better performance that Muir was able to beat her PB from five years ago.