Oscar Pistorius

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Well I'm convinced: wearing clothes, shot from inside the bathroom while hiding in the bathroom, arguments for an hour leading up to it. Lock him up
 
May 27, 2011
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A few interesting quotes:

'Nel recalls Pistorius saying he was worried about crime so kept a gun under his bed. Yet he went to bed with the balcony doors open'

Botha: "We found two boxes of steroids..." Nel interrupts him. Botha corrects to: "Two boxes of testosterone, needles and injections."

Nel asks Botha: if you are on the balcony, you have to go past the bed to get to the bathroom - there's no other way? That's right, says Botha.

Especially the last quote is interesting. If OP would go from the balcony to the bathroom, he would have seen that Reeva was not in bed.
 
Sep 22, 2012
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mikkemus23 said:
Not looking good for OP

Does dressed here mean she was not naked but wearing whatever she normally slept in or does it means she was wearing normal day clothes?

There is a big difference.
 
Apparently Botha didnt read the whole name on the box of the 'testosterone.' Defence lawyer suggesting it is a herbal remedy used by many athletes. Should be easy enough to test and find out who is telling the truth.
 
Briant_Gumble said:
Never heard of this testoconpasupium sounds BS but I'm not sure why the defence would say it if it wasn't true.

The only google results i get for Testoconpasupium are for people reporting from the courts. Would have thought that if it was used by a lot of people then it would have some mention. Maybe a misspelling?
 
Why is this trial so quick (less than a week after the offence!) I imagine it would take the police some time to chase up all leads? Or is it some kind of preliminary hearing?

Ok, its just the bail hearing!
 
Aug 18, 2012
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Frosty said:
The only google results i get for Testoconpasupium are for people reporting from the courts. Would have thought that if it was used by a lot of people then it would have some mention. Maybe a misspelling?

My initial reaction was it sounds like some BS Roux made up to desperately contradict Botha in a Troy Mclure esque fashion.
 
I don't get the defense about him feeling vulnerable without his prosthetics. Then why would he go into the bathroom without them? The only way out of the bathroom would be through the bedroom. Then if you were so afraid, the safe thing to do would be to stay there and take a defensive position. Walking into somewhere, without prosthetics, where there might be armed people sound like a rather cold action to do. Not something you would do if you were so afraid that you forgot to check if your girlfriend was next to you.
 
Jul 9, 2010
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MrRoboto said:
I don't get the defense about him feeling vulnerable without his prosthetics. Then why would he go into the bathroom without them? The only way out of the bathroom would be through the bedroom. Then if you were so afraid, the safe thing to do would be to stay there and take a defensive position. Walking into somewhere, without prosthetics, where there might be armed people sound like a rather cold action to do. Not something you would do if you were so afraid that you forgot to check if your girlfriend was next to you.

Besides, when you go to bed, where would you take the prosthetics off? On the bed, I'd say. And probably leave them next to the gun....
 
thirteen said:
Alex, thank you very much for sharing. it sheds light on what a lot people don't understand.

on a personal level, i find it sad to see that not much seems to have changed regarding the problems that can arise from prosthetics... they can make those amazing blades and yet comfort and everyday issues seem to remain.
Most of the technology focus as far as I can see has been on he "exo-skeleton" (i.e. the stuff you attach to a leg) and less so on the interface between the residual limb and prosthetic. The main issue is that you are dealing with a dynamically changing limb (e.g. volume, shape changes through the day, let alone over time) and fitting it into a hard fixed volume and shaped shell, often nowadays made from carbon fibre.

The interface between skin and shell replaces the job of the missing skeleton - all forces are transmitted via the skin (which is why I think amputee runners are amazing, the impact forces are large relative to cycling). I could never contemplate attempting to run. Having a very snug fit is critically important, you do not want any movement as it creates shearing forces.

Although to be fair, there are some pretty funky computer controlled vacuum volume management systems, but they are unsuitable for performance applications such as athletics and cycling. More for everyday use.

My experience is relatively new, having had my amputation is 2007 and somewhat limited with only occasional exposure to other amputees (mostly at the amputee clinic and when I rode some paracycling events, with the world cup road race being where I saw the most in one place).

thirteen said:
(and apologies if i caused offence about the fellow i dated -- he was in theatre and could/did get in and out of his leg fairly quickly, but only for emergencies and/or brief stage entrances. it wasn't always comfortable, but he could -- though there were times it was a struggle if it was done improperly too many times in a row.)
no offence taken, I haven't read all comments in this thread in any case, I even made a moderately poor taste joke myself although I'm uncertain if many actually got it.

There are certain types of low end prosthetics that can be quicker to get in/out of, but the liner and pin arrangement requires one to carefully place the liner over your stump (rolls on like a big fat condom), and often also then use a sock before putting on the leg.

In time frame terms, it's as if you had to say put on a sock and boot and tie up your boot laces before you would be able to stand and walk. If your liner is already on, then it's fairly quick.

The low end/cheaper prosthetics don't have the liner with pin - they are held on by the shape of the prosthetic being narrow above the knee and pressing in against the leg - they can hurt ripping them on/off as the knee is wider than the opening.

thirteen said:
do you have any feelings about the case thus? does the scenario of when he said he put the prosthesis ring true to you?
I haven't read the statements, just heard snippets via news. I'll leave judgement on him to the court, since they will have all the available information presented without the filter of the mass media.

All I know is a woman has died a brutal death that should never have happened, be it via an accident or nefarious action.

I was never a big fan to start with, less so after the CAS hearing to be able to compete in able bodied events which butchered the science and showed a willingness to play loose and fast with evidence and the truth for presumably a fame and wealth return.
 
Aug 18, 2012
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I read she was wearing white shorts and a black top so it sounds like she wasn't exactly in her "nighty".

Guardian have picked up on the "testoconpasupium" thing saying they have no record of it.
 
Aug 18, 2012
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Botha said both Pistorius and his family accessed off shore bank accounts after the shooting.

Not sure if they are going all out to get bail or something.
 
Feb 28, 2010
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Testis compositum:

Indications:
For the temporary relief of symptoms associated with male sexual weakness such as; Lack of stamina, nocturnal emissions, and male hormone imbalance.
 
Sep 22, 2012
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Briant_Gumble said:
I read she was wearing white shorts and a black top so it sounds like she wasn't exactly in her "nighty".

Guardian have picked up on the "testoconpasupium" thing saying they have no record of it.

Read that after I made my post. Still it could be what she wore to bed. Have to wait and see if anything more comes up.
 
A pic of him changing prosthetics, which might give an idea of how it works:
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