Paris-Roubaix 2025, one day monument, April 13 (men)

[Gratemans]

Not arguing it was unlucky, but I doubt he 'arrogantly' attacked, he just didn't know the course well enough. He said in the interview post race, that he was looking at the parked motos ahead, and "in my head they were going straight, nobody was turning, and then I come into the corner really really really fast...". So he had a mistaen perception of the situation, that would not have happend had he been aware of where he was. So he was done in by inexperience that led to a misperception of the situation imo.

Makes sense. If you watch the replay and look at vdp, he hit the brakes for that turn way earlier than Pog and even he almost kind of overshoots it.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Paris Roubaix was carnage, literally.
Such a shame for all those who e.g. broke bones and are out, sometimes for months, while being in top shape.

• Julius van den Berg, Ayco Bastiaens, Manlio Moro = broken collarbone
• Silvan Dilier broke his right hand
• Ballerini broke his wrist in multiple places
• Edward Theuns to hospital with a neckbrace
• Mathias Vacek fell on his head, concussion protocol applied but finished the race.
• Politt, Mohoric, Stuyven, Segaert, van Aert, Behrens, Simmons, Scotson, Kubis, Philipsen and Stockman (and some others I don't remember / weren't noticed by the press or race radio) crashed but finished.
• Kristoff crashed and didn't finish, in his (probably) last Roubaix. No further info.
• Kung fell on his face and was bleeding, but finished the race.

VIDEO | Not for the faint of heart - Stefan Küng finishes Paris-Roubaix after crashing face first into the cobbles

Paris-Roubaix is a race that is thrilling but unfortunately also brutal on many. Crashes open often due to the tension but also the treacherous aspect of racing on narrow and cobbled roads. Stefan Kün...

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And that's exactly how this beautiful race should be. Brutalities, injustices, mercilessness, unpredictability, and yet the strongest still often stand with the biggest cobblestones on the velodrome. The faints of heart can start playing bridge or pillow fighting.

 

[RedheadDane]

And that's exactly how this beautiful race should be. Brutalities, injustices, mercilessness, unpredictability, and yet the strongest still often stand with the biggest cobblestones on the velodrome. The faints of heart can start playing bridge or pillow fighting.

Yes, it's not supposed to be easy, but saying that people breaking bones is how it's "supposed to be" is a bit much.

Kristoff crashed and didn't finish, in his (probably) last Roubaix. No further info.

Suspected concussion. Was heard saying "I landed on my head" after the crash. In Norwegian, so that would explain if not everyone caught it.

 

[Wyndbrook]

And that's exactly how this beautiful race should be. Brutalities, injustices, mercilessness, unpredictability, and yet the strongest still often stand with the biggest cobblestones on the velodrome. The faints of heart can start playing bridge or pillow fighting.

Don't recall Joop ever manning up for Paris Roubaix, was he a good bridge player by chance?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Pog seems like such a good guy, that it should be easy to cheer for him...but his fans make that more challenging.

Understandable. I wonder how I'd feel about Pogacar had I not stumbled upon him in the Tour of California, when I first had to find out who he was (Phil Ligget was butchering his name, Pocagar, Pocigar etc, yet not Pogacar) and then decided to root for him on that stage, which he won and subsequently the entire race.

I have to say though, that I find cycling fans to be much less annoying, even when they are annoying about their favorite riders than football (with the actual ball) fans for example. You have so many fans of successful teams who think it makes themselves superior because they root for a 'superior' team. *** Erfolgsfans. I see that much less often with cycling, and not really on this board (maybe with a few exceptions). There is nothing like the typical arrogant Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca fan around here.

 

[RedheadDane]

Here's a video of Küng's crash, and... yikes!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911707948977447289

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Yes, it's not supposed to be easy, but saying that people breaking bones is how it's "supposed to be" is a bit much.

I suppose you're not suggesting a conversion from cobbles to asphalt in this race due to safety reasons?

I know there is a debate thread about rider safety and what can be done to minimize crashes.
That's a completely different ball game. Ofc in general I would pretty much like prioritizing safety of the riders and where measures can be considered.
E.g. the fact that far more road furniture has filled the roads past the last two decades, of which in generally is not "part of the races" - here P-R stands out with the merciless cobblestones defining the race's existense.
The riders hate and love the race and know very well the brutal and unfair consequences, but despite this fact any World Tour team are able to collect enough riders with the dream of participating in this mythical race.

 

[RedheadDane]

I suppose you're not suggesting a conversion from cobbles to asphalt in this race due to safety reasons?

Of course not. Broken bones are - unfortunately - unavoidable, that doesn't mean they're supposed to happen.

Let's say there was an edition of the race that was great and exciting, but through some miracle and sheer good luck, nobody broke any bones, not even a pinky-toe*. Would that mean that edition of the race wouldn't have been like it was supposed to be.



*Though, I guess breaking your toe would be... tricky. Cycling shoes are rather stiff, right?

 

[Miha81]

Apparently that bidon throwing idiot turned himself in...

Paris-Roubaix spectator who threw bottle at Mathieu van der Poel hands himself in to the police

The spectator, who was accused of "attempted manslaughter" by the incensed winner of the men's race on Sunday, hasn't been identified but reportedly expressed regret for his actions

road.cc

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Here's a video of Küng's crash, and... yikes!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911707948977447289

Would be really nice to have a version without trash overlay music.
Here you can really talk about less is more, the raw material without blabbering idle talk or added meaningless background music.
I really hope Küng gets lucky one day and wins his P-R.
But I also said that about Hincapie for many years, back then.

 

[ChasingPotatoes]

So the bidon culprit has, probably due to pressure by his 'friends' (don't know if he still has any), gone to the nearest police station to admit he wasn't very bright in his mind.

His excuses are the recent death of his father-in-law (I wonder what his wife / girlfriend will think about his mourning rituals), maybe some alcohol (99.9999% sure) and maybe a bad youth (he has ginger hair so RedHeadDane could chime in and give her expert experience opinion what that does with young innocent people --> they could end up on a cycling forum!).

He is (or was now?) a member of none other than a Matej Mohoric fanclub (*), and they came with a full 50-seater bus to watch the race (and probably have some beers).

It's actualy quite a feat that he threw the bidon straight in MvdP's face without seeing him coming (you need excellent timing for that, maybe he should try a baseball career) and it's probably even a bigger feat he went unnoticed with all the smart phones etc, with that ginger hair.

(*) no bad word about the fanclub. They seem, from their socials, to support each and every rider, and advertised the bus on facebook with a picture of them encouraging MvdP last year, on exactly the same spot as they were this year. So it seems to be an attack of a lone wolf (no QS joke).

 

[RedheadDane]

His excuses are the recent death of his father-in-law (I wonder what his wife / girlfriend will think about his mourning rituals), maybe some alcohol (99.9999% sure) and maybe a bad youth (he has ginger hair so RedHeadDane could chime in and give her expert experience opinion what that does with young innocent people --> they could end up on a cycling forum!).

I don't think red hair caused me much trouble in my childhood. Any trouble was probably more due to the fact that I'm autistic...
(But, with plenty of support)

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

*Though, I guess breaking your toe would be... tricky. Cycling shoes are rather stiff, right?

My first pair of real bike shoes was a softer tourist model made for max comfort, and in fact I managed to break my left* big toe at my first test bike training
*I'm one of those dudes being a 100% left-hander and 100% left-footer in everything, maybe except that after years of bike training I manage to make a perfectly round rolling thread mill of my bike style (but still think it's a Luc Leblanc style 60/40 power transmission, even when it looks perfectly balanced from outside).

 

[Scarponi]

Cycling is the worst sport for what ifs. Just another event fans miss out on epic battles

 

[Hugh Januss]

Just identified that a handful of post race voters had been voting for this editions' winner.
Expecting some hindsight posts incoming

Just like to mention that I'm running a perfect score in races where the poll is not closed before the finish.

 

[Unchained]

I don't think red hair caused me much trouble in my childhood. Any trouble was probably more due to the fact that I'm autistic...
(But, with plenty of support)

No matter where you are on the spectrum, I often enjoy and laugh at your posts.
.Red hair is usually a huge problem and if you want real social hurdles.. Freckles!!!!

 

[Salvarani]

Have they found the Visma fan yet? They need to find him and punish that guy.

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911699850673991994

View: https://x.com/sporza_koers/status/1911699850673991994?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ

 

[scribers]

I seen elsewhere the fan turned himself in. Not sure if that’s true or not.

Also, mvp calling it attempted manslaughter is just weird. Maybe a second language thing. But impossible by definition. Assault would be worst case scenario. More likely some lesser mischievous charge with fine

 

[topcat]

I seen elsewhere the fan turned himself in. Not sure if that’s true or not.

Also, mvp calling it attempted manslaughter is just weird. Maybe a second language thing. But impossible by definition. Assault would be worst case scenario. More likely some lesser mischievous charge with fine

It wasn't premeditated and it was clearly an attempt to kill him, so definitely poorly attempted manslaughter.

 

[scribers]

Manslaughter is not intentional. So you already missed the mark on that charge. Again, assault is a premeditated attack. But it's unlikely they'll go that far. If you really want to kill someone I wouldn't do so with a soft plastic. Quite the opposite usually happens with soft plastics.

 

[Red Rick]

I seen elsewhere the fan turned himself in. Not sure if that’s true or not.

Also, mvp calling it attempted manslaughter is just weird. Maybe a second language thing. But impossible by definition. Assault would be worst case scenario. More likely some lesser mischievous charge with fine

Not a language thing. Doodslag is literally manslaughter in Dutch.

I think the thing that many don't understand here is if the riders is going 50 kph and the bottle is inert, it's a lot different than being stationary and being hit in the race with a bottle at 50 kph.

 

[scribers]

MVP going on about manslaughter is just drama-queen material

 

[scribers]

Not a language thing. Doodslag is literally manslaughter in Dutch.

I think the thing that many don't understand here is if the riders is going 50 kph and the bottle is inert, it's a lot different than being stationary and being hit in the race with a bottle at 50 kph.

We about to get PHYSICS here. lol

So the bottle is suspended in front of him and he hits it at 50km. How fast would the bottle be traveling if he is standing still and someone roundhouse slaps him in the face with it?

 

[topcat]

Manslaughter = the crime of killing someone unintentionally or without having planned to do it.
*Earlier post not entirely serious