Paul Seixas: Tour de France Winner 2031

[Netserk]

Vauquelin?

Alaphilippe won a Tour ITT, but I don't think either qualify as climber.

 

[ppanther92]

I didn't think he could TT. Looks quite complete as a rider.

 

[pastronef]

French forum Gruppetto and some French side of twitter with different reactions. Decathlon-(L'Oreal) getting too rich and losing its soul with the departure of Ag2r and Seixas getting too fast. I'm all for Seixas getting fast big time and Decathlon going super team (it'll take time though).
the FDJ romantics won't like it, but tbf they're never happy

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Alaphilippe won a Tour ITT, but I don't think either qualify as climber.

Pinot in 2016 and only 2016, then.

 

[TastyGroceries]

Pinot in 2016 and only 2016, then.

There's also Latour before he crashed himself and his carreer as well. Coppel and Péraud were also good at TT if we go back 10-15 years ago. But their carrier was shorter and/or they were lesser rider than Pinot.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

I didn't think he could TT. Looks quite complete as a rider.

He's even the current Juniors TT WC!

 

[Red Rick]

French forum Gruppetto and some French side of twitter with different reactions. Decathlon-(L'Oreal) getting too rich and losing its soul with the departure of Ag2r and Seixas getting too fast. I'm all for Seixas getting fast big time and Decathlon going super team (it'll take time though).
the FDJ romantics won't like it, but tbf they're never happy

Reminds me of Wielerflits very consistently crying about the lack of Dutch leaders on Visma and longing back for the days it was just Dutch riders being awful and pointlessly being in breakaways.

 

[Berniece]

French forum Gruppetto and some French side of twitter with different reactions. Decathlon-(L'Oreal) getting too rich and losing its soul with the departure of Ag2r and Seixas getting too fast. I'm all for Seixas getting fast big time and Decathlon going super team (it'll take time though).
the FDJ romantics won't like it, but tbf they're never happy

If they rather be irrelevant they can support Arkea

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

If they rather be irrelevant they can support Arkea

Isn't Arkea dissolving after the season?

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Vauquelin?

I don’t really count him as a climber/GC hope, in the way for example Pinot, Bardet, Gaudu, Barguil were hyped when they were younger

 

[ppanther92]

He's even the current Juniors TT WC!

I found out in the meanwhile, haha. Ok, so classified him totally wrong.

 

[pastronef]

Reminds me of Wielerflits very consistently crying about the lack of Dutch leaders on Visma and longing back for the days it was just Dutch riders being awful and pointlessly being in breakaways.

well, Dekker wasn't bad at breakaways
yes, the fans ways, mine too eh, are strange and different. Jorgenson made we a Visma fan, WVA on the Finestre un-made me a WVA disliker

anyway, back to the French youngster! looking forward to see how he goes in the next 3 days

 

[Pozzovivo]

There's also Latour before he crashed himself and his carreer as well. Coppel and Péraud were also good at TT if we go back 10-15 years ago. But their carrier was shorter and/or they were lesser rider than Pinot.

Pierre de la tour is a legend but not exactly a GC rider? 13th at Tour best result. Mattia Cattaneo got 12th one year for reference.

 

[YavorD]

I wouldn't be too quick to hype.
We just recently saw Ayuso on a GT podium at 19, never improved much since. Uijtdebroeks constantly top 10 in WT stage races just turning 20, now seems like a random rider. etc, etc

But yes, Seixas is super impressive. It will be interesting to see who of him, Del Toro, (albelt "old"), Nordhagen, Widar and Torres (I didn't include Brennan and AWP as they are not GT riders) will be the next big names and who will come short.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I wouldn't be too quick to hype.
We just recently saw Ayuso on a GT podium at 19, never improved much since. Uijtdebroeks constantly top 10 in WT stage races just turning 20, now seems like a random rider. etc, etc

In their respective first years out of the juniors, Ayuso and Uijtdebroeks managed one top-10 in races above the .1 level between them. Seixas is up to 6 after yesterday. Barring Evenepoel, there quite simply has never been a better season by a future GC rider in this age bracket. And then you need to factor in that Evenepoel was born in January and Seixas in September, meaning Seixas still has until March (!) to get his first pro win at a younger age than Evenepoel did.

If anything, I don't think there's enough hype yet - the Ayuso hype after his first pro season was much bigger than this, yet Seixas has already shown much more than Ayuso did in that season.

Setting that aside, Uijtdebroeks has been chronically injured for over a year and therefore isn't really representative.

 

[Tonton]

A French climber that can TT? Can’t remember the last one.

Thibaut Pinot in '16, age 26. including the ITT in Romandie ahead of Dumourain with Froome 4th. the Dauphiné stage win vs. Bardet, the ITT French title.

Alaphilippe and Pinot in '19. TdF stage 13 ITT : winner and 7th. The next day 1-2 atop Le Tourmalet. There was a moment when there were two. The next day on Prat, Alaf' still finished 11th, Thibaut was flying.

In context, Paul Seixas is an 18 year-old rookie who is fearless and has always been a complete rider. It's amazing to see him mixing it up and holding his own vs. top-notch competition. Only 18. How much better can he become?

We don't know yet but he will be fun to watch. I will sheer for him again tomorrow, he will test his limits and learn so much no matter what: Allez Paul!

 

[Lorzenz08]

In their respective first years out of the juniors, Ayuso and Uijtdebroeks managed one top-10 in races above the .1 level between them. Seixas is up to 6 after yesterday. Barring Evenepoel, there quite simply has never been a better season by a future GC rider in this age bracket. And then you need to factor in that Evenepoel was born in January and Seixas in September, meaning Seixas still has until March (!) to get his first pro win at a younger age than Evenepoel did.

If anything, I don't think there's enough hype yet - the Ayuso hype after his first pro season was much bigger than this, yet Seixas has already shown much more than Ayuso did in that season.

Setting that aside, Uijtdebroeks has been chronically injured for over a year and therefore isn't really representative.

And if by end of next year Seixas doesnt podium a GT, he is worse than Ayuso ?

Come on... he is showing enormous potential, but lets not start the hype train too much.

The problem with hype is that it usually deflates as fast as it inflates