Paul Seixas: Tour de France Winner 2031

[Logic-is-your-friend]

As a teenager?

Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkey 2019 Stage 5 results

Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkey 2019 Stage 5 from Bursa to Kartepe was won by Felix Großschartner before Valerio Conti and Merhawi Kudus. Felix Großschartner was leading the general classification.

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Adriatica Ionica Race / Sulle Rotte della Serenissima 2019 Stage 2 results

Adriatica Ionica Race / Sulle Rotte della Serenissima 2019 Stage 2 from Palmanova to Lago di Misurina/Tre Cime di Lavaredo was won by Mark Padun before Dayer Quintana and Ben Hermans. Mark Padun was leading the general classification.

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Evenepoel was on his way to win the GC of the first race he entered as a pro, until the team car called him off, to drop back and work for Alaphilippe who had been dropped. The result was that neither won the GC of course.

 

[Cycling111]

I thought he was going to win by a bigger margin

The French press doesn't learn

They forgot to put Vingegaard +40 minutes. LOL.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1961469692494614641

View: https://x.com/francetvsport/status/1961469692494614641

 

[scribers]

I see Bob Roll and Chris Horner butchering his name into censor beep territory

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I see Bob Roll and Chris Horner butchering his name into censor beep territory

Plenty of variants on it between Jez Cox and Michale Hutchinson too (perhaps trying too hard to avoid what scribers describes). I have heard the X pronounced as X, like a French J, a Spanish J, a SS, and as a Z, and no apparent consensus as to whether it is one syllable or two.

Any francophones here? @Tonton?

Say-ksah is my default guess.

 

[SafeBet]

Plenty of variants on it between Jez Cox and Michale Hutchinson too (perhaps trying too hard to avoid what scribers describes). I have heard the X pronounced as X, like a French J, a Spanish J, a SS, and as a Z, and no apparent consensus as to whether it is one syllable or two.

Any francophones here? @Tonton?

Say-ksah is my default guess.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933584486102716904

View: https://x.com/saiklist_help/status/1933584486102716904?t=Da8CBUEOrOnVPDJFwiE8zA&s=19


Good Twitter account for pronunciations.

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933584486102716904

View: https://x.com/saiklist_help/status/1933584486102716904?t=Da8CBUEOrOnVPDJFwiE8zA&s=19


Good Twitter account for pronunciations.

It's badly pronounced. Seixas is a portuguese surname.

 

[elguapo]

Most important is that Seixas should be healthy, no injury and significant weight gains of sorts to slow him down until he reaches age 25. Widar is always be there for a mountain top challenge. The young Norseman and the young Ecuadorian showed strong potentials too. UAE's Torres has gone south this year compared to his spectacular mountain top wins last year.

 

[RedheadDane]

It's badly pronounced. Seixas is a portuguese surname.

In this case it's clearly a French name.
Sure, he might have Portuguese ancestry, somewhere - or rather somewhen - but he himself is French, and is naturally going to pronounce his name in a French manner.

 

[Peyroteo94]

In this case it's clearly a French name.
Sure, he might have Portuguese ancestry, somewhere - or rather somewhen - but he himself is French, and is naturally going to pronounce his name in a French manner.

Just because he is french, doesn't mean there is a french manner to pronunce.
And no, it is not a french name. His surname is portuguese. Paul is french, "ei" is like how we pronounce the letter "a" in english. "Xas" is "chas", not "ecs" like in english.

 

[RedheadDane]

Just because he is french, doesn't mean there is a french manner to pronunce.
And no, it is not a french name. His surname is portuguese. Paul is french, "ei" is like how we pronounce the letter "a" in english. "Xas" is "chas", not "ecs" like in english.

There is a French manner to pronounce it; the way he - and his family - are pronouncing it, the way that comes natural to them as French people.
Sure, the name might have Portuguese roots, but lots of people have ancestry in one country, but are themselves from another country.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I think there are many riders in the peloton that don't pronounce their surnames like their ancestors did.
I know Logic isn't a friend of that either, but that's the way it often works.

‘There are some Portuguese roots on my Dad’s side. My great-grandfather was of Portuguese origin. We don’t quite know where exactly he came from, there’s no family tree to trace that back, but we’re trying to find out more about the Portuguese side of the family. I don’t speak Portuguese though, not at all. I tried learning German but it was a bit of a failure. It’s only English and French for the moment, it’s too complicated beyond that.’

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/paul-seixas-interview

 

[YellowSocks]

He pronounces it the French way (and yes, the beginning sounds like the forbidden word), like all people named Seixas in France do (this Portuguese surname is common in France, as Oliveira is - also pronounced the French way).
That's the way it usually goes. Armand Duplantis wears a French name but he pronounces it with an American accent.
There's an exception I could see in France: German surnames, also quite common due to our history, for which we often have to ask if we should pronounce them the French or the German way.

 

[RedheadDane]

That's the way it usually goes. Armand Duplantis wears a French name but he pronounces it with an American accent.

And he's Swedish, for extra confusion...

 

[AlfaLum]

This is so typical of this Cycling forum. We have a 18-year old winning the biggest U-23 race in the world with some nice performances.

But the topic most discussed after that is how you pronounce his name. 😂

 

[Brullnux]

Just because he is french, doesn't mean there is a french manner to pronunce.
And no, it is not a french name. His surname is portuguese. Paul is french, "ei" is like how we pronounce the letter "a" in english. "Xas" is "chas", not "ecs" like in english.

He's not Portuguese so he doesn't pronounce it the Portuguese way, just how Ricciardo and Riccitello aren't italian so don't pronounce it the italian way. It isn't hard to get your head around.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

And he's Swedish, for extra confusion...

Gross oversimplification, but that's what sports insist on.

 

[Cycling111]

This is so typical of this Cycling forum. We have a 18-year old winning the biggest U-23 race in the world with some nice performances.

But the topic most discussed after that is how you pronounce his name. 😂

We had a 22 year rider who looked pathetic in that race against 2 years younger rides, and has won two Tours .

I don't like the focus placed on this race and the category these days. I think many of these young riders are too professional and won't live up to expectations.

This Avenir has been especially boring. The essence has been lost.
Before, it was chaos, where cyclists learned.

Now, Belgium and France have a train because everyone knows them; one of them is already a professional cyclist.
It's raced like a Tour de France. Before, the Avenir was a different story.
The last chaotic Avenir was Del Toro's, because he didn't have a team. It had the essence of what it was before.
It was a boring edition, this is not what Avenir used to be. Everything was too measured, it seemed more like a professional race than the Avenir. It's been like Sky´s Tour.

 

[YellowSocks]

This is so typical of this Cycling forum. We have a 18-year old winning the biggest U-23 race in the world with some nice performances.

But the topic most discussed after that is how you pronounce his name. 😂

That's because the forum has to get ready for... 2031. We don't want to hear Paul Seiyx&asch all over the place ('... Paul who?').

 

[Peyroteo94]

He's not Portuguese so he doesn't pronounce it the Portuguese way, just how Ricciardo and Riccitello aren't italian so don't pronounce it the italian way. It isn't hard to get your head around.

But his grandfather was... The name didn't born with Paul... Seixas is a portuguese surname, period.
I will not say Hinault is a portuguese surname just because there is a portuguese citizen with that surname.

 

[RedheadDane]

I will not say Hinault is a portuguese surname just because there is a portuguese citizen with that surname.

And a Portuguese person named Hinault would likely pronounce their name in a Portuguese manner.
Just because a name originated in one country doesn't mean it has to forever be pronounced in the manner it's pronounced in the country of origin, even when people move away from said country.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The kiddo still has a lot of time to develop. In a few years the landscape will change (Pogacar & Vingo gone/declined) and he will hit his prime so maybe the long waiting in France for another Tour winner will end at some point.

 

[Pippo_San]

So in the end how do you pronounce it?
The French way?

pohl SAY-ksas

 

[YellowSocks]

So in the end how do you pronounce it?
The French way?

pohl SAY-ksas

Yes, this way. Or forbidden word-forbidden word.

 

[Netserk]

Gross oversimplification, but that's what sports insist on.

Do you prefer to describe people by their genetic admixture?

 

[Red Rick]

Realistically, he's not gonna win the TdF cause he's gonna be stuck on an underperfoming amateurish French team forever.