Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[cineteq]

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The best rider of his generation, maybe the best ever, bar none :exclaim:

Best there ever was.

Deal with it.

See you next year.

 

[SKSemtex]

Does still somebody think he is not worth 3 millions fot Bora and 3 millions for Specialized.
His CPW must be amazing.

 

[Red Rick]

Does still somebody think he is not worth 3 millions fot Bora and 3 millions for Specialized.
His CPW must be amazing.

He rides for Bora? I thought he was a one-man Team Rainbow, sponsored by Unicorn Inc. on a multi year contract

 

[Blanco]

He needs to ride Milan-San Remo this way. That's his best chance for win

 

[Gigs_98]

Sagan is a beast but still it's a bit sad that a rider who is that aggressive can basically only win in bunch sprints. I think the last race he won after an attack was KBK. It just shows that the best tactic for a rider with a sprint like that is waiting for the last 200m of a race to stick your nose into the wind.

Let's just hope Sagan will soon start winning in a more spectacular fashion again.

 

[SKSemtex]

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He needs to ride Milan-San Remo this way. That's his best chance for win

He cannot. Gaviria will be faster, much faster. Although you cannot probably improve considerebly in climbing without loosing some of your top speed. This might happen also to Gaviria. We will see next spring.

 

[Gigs_98]

Why are so many people assuming Sagan has no chance against Gaviria in a sprint?

 

[Beech Mtn]

CN's pic on the homepage

 

[portugal11]

Why are so many people assuming Sagan has no chance against Gaviria in a sprint?

I really don't understand... this hype around gaviria is getting ridiculous... and I really like the boy but calm down he isn't cippolini or "htc cavendish"

 

[SKSemtex]

Why are so many people assuming Sagan has no chance against Gaviria in a sprint?

Because he was beating Cav probably. :lol:
Just the feeling. For sure Sagan can beat him, but race must be really hard. I am not scared he will loose to Gav in RVV or PR, but MSR is such a shitty race without le Manie

 

[jsem94]

Sagan should already have won like a minimum of 3 MSR. Maybe it will be his eternal bogey race.

 

[franic]

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Three world championships is too much, especially when he won the last two in such a forgettable fashion.

Last year he outsprinted CAV and Boonen in a deadly flat course. This year he literally stormed Bling away from his wheel and taught Kristoff what to do at the finish line. You can say that you don't like sprints, but that's your personal taste. Fact is that he smashed GvA and EBH in the final climb in Richmond AND smashed everybody in the final sprint. Only Bettini (and maybe Boonen) could win both attacking uphill and in a final sprint.

He was just lucky there was no tough course 3 years in a row, but that doesn't depend on him.

 

[cineteq]

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3 years in a row, and "luck" was on his side. Now let's this sink in: 261Km, 257Km and 267Km races, and barely no team.

Three world championships is too much, especially when he won the last two in such a forgettable fashion.

 

[Durden93]

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Three world championships is too much, especially when he won the last two in such a forgettable fashion.

did you see his first win?

Yes. It was a terrible race with only one lap of proper racing and where everything was always going to come to that last climb because of the terrible course design, but still, Sagan took his chances and went at it head-to-head with the other contenders at the exact point where the race could be made. Totally different from just waiting for the bunch sprint.

To be clear, this is the same world's where a break of Boonen, Stannard, Kwiatko, Mollema, Viviani, Moreno and a few others created a gap with 40km left, right?

Every WC RR has those moves that are clearly not the winning ones.

2014 didn't have a break which included any favourites unless you consider De Marchi and Gautier as top end talent. 2016 didn't feature a break which threatened the Sagan/Cav/Boonen group. This year's race had a break with some firepower, but none of the big favourites. The move in Richmond meant 6 of the world's strongest teams weren't chasing a break which held 30 seconds. It's a different situation entirely.

 

[Keram]

Sagan is a beast but still it's a bit sad that a rider who is that aggressive can basically only win in bunch sprints. I think the last race he won after an attack was KBK. It just shows that the best tactic for a rider with a sprint like that is waiting for the last 200m of a race to stick your nose into the wind.

Let's just hope Sagan will soon start winning in a more spectacular fashion again.

Yes it is sad. He maybe will be winning more but will be somehow uninspiring. I am really curious how he will ride at spring with Oss Kenaugh and improving Postlberger.

 

[loge1884]

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Three world championships is too much, especially when he won the last two in such a forgettable fashion.

let's face it: should Cav have won in Doha or Kristoff in Bergen, it would have been of exactly the same forgettable fashion (Richmond was def. winning in style) ... I take it as a sort of act of justice winning two major races in a 'forgettable fashion" whilst losing so many other races in style ...

 

[hrotha]

Yes, two WC wins for Cavendish would also have been entirely too much, I agree.

 

[blutto]

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Yes, two WC wins for Cavendish would also have been entirely too much, I agree.

....yeah , and in some fan circles one WC for Cavendouche is too much.....

Cheers

 

[KGB]

Why are so many people assuming Sagan has no chance against Gaviria in a sprint?

Because he was beating Cav probably. :lol:
Just the feeling. For sure Sagan can beat him, but race must be really hard. I am not scared he will loose to Gav in RVV or PR, but MSR is such a ****** race without le Manie

Gaviria challange for Sagan in RVV?Maybe for Sagan's Mum or his sister.

 

[trucido]

What's the longest stretch someone has gone not wearing the official team jersey in a race? (not including any TTs).

I think Sagan hasn't worn one since 2011.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm pretty sure he wore it at the nat road races, before he started the whole being World Champion thing.

 

[tomorrow]

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I'm pretty sure he wore it at the nat road races, before he started the whole being World Champion thing.

Well obviously nationals should not be counted too. I think, the last time he wore his teams standard kit was first stage of tour de suise in 2011. After that he won the nationals and so on

 

[portugal11]

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I'm pretty sure he wore it at the nat road races, before he started the whole being World Champion thing.

Well obviously nationals should not be counted too. I think, the last time he wore his teams standard kit was first stage of tour de suise in 2011. After that he won the nationals and so on

TT in the tour

 

[May0maniac]

Yesterday he visited Lienz because of the deal that Osttirol have with Bora, they'll have a few training camps around here, this year I already saw the team training in the Upper Puster valley a few times.
Sagan and Lakata on the new Lakata trail:

Sagan respecting local traditions :

 

[AQETUYIOI]

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Why the rainbow jersey?