Peter Sagan discussion thread.

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So... I don't know what to think of his E3 performance. The last time he was actually competitive here was 2016. Is he too heavy ? Is it because this race generally splits up earlier than other races like Tour of Flanders? Also, why does he keep working in groups when he's clearly not feeling well? It's like he feels obliged to do so. And then he seems to fake a mechanical. I really don't get it.
 
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Screecher said:
So... I don't know what to think of his E3 performance. The last time he was actually competitive here was 2016. Is he too heavy ? Is it because this race generally splits up earlier than other races like Ronde van Vlaanderen? Also, why does he keep working in groups when he's clearly not feeling well? It's like he feels obliged to do so. And then he seems to fake a mechanical. I really don't get it.

You hate on him in every post you make about him... just look above on this page. And you did in another thread the other day. Cool if you dont like him, but you can stay mad.
 
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Salvarani said:
Screecher said:
So... I don't know what to think of his E3 performance. The last time he was actually competitive here was 2016. Is he too heavy ? Is it because this race generally splits up earlier than other races like Ronde van Vlaanderen? Also, why does he keep working in groups when he's clearly not feeling well? It's like he feels obliged to do so. And then he seems to fake a mechanical. I really don't get it.

You hate on him in every post you make about him... just look above on this page. And you did in another thread the other day. Cool if you dont like him, but you can stay mad.
I don't hate. I'm being critical because i want him to do well and i know he can do better. I'm from the same country as him and he's the reason why i started watching cycling.
 
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Screecher said:
Salvarani said:
Screecher said:
So... I don't know what to think of his E3 performance. The last time he was actually competitive here was 2016. Is he too heavy ? Is it because this race generally splits up earlier than other races like Ronde van Vlaanderen? Also, why does he keep working in groups when he's clearly not feeling well? It's like he feels obliged to do so. And then he seems to fake a mechanical. I really don't get it.

You hate on him in every post you make about him... just look above on this page. And you did in another thread the other day. Cool if you dont like him, but you can stay mad.
I don't hate. I'm being critical because i want him to do well and i know he can do better. I'm from the same country as him and he's the reason why i started watching cycling.
You are being over-critical, and if what you said is true, you should have a little more faith than what you are showing him.
 
Why on earth he would fake mechanical? :confused: He admitted he is not in good shape yet AND had mechanical issues with gearrings. I guess we never know how strong or weak he would be in final. Anyway last three editions his results at this race are p*** poor and that really annoys me.
 
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I flippin' love Sagan. He's definitely a rider that I'll get out of bed for to watch him race. I don't know what conclusions can be drawn from his performance of today, but I have a feeling he'll be ready when the races that really matter come around, or at least I really hope so. Aside from that, he hasn't been really good in E3 for a couple of editions now, so I wouldn't think too much of it.
 
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Koronin said:
I have a hard time seeing Sagan faking a mechanical. That just doesn't fit him.
Indeed, actualy in post race interview, he admitted he's not fully fit from the illness yet, but blamed the shifter for him droping from the chasing group. Also, as I stated in the race thread, he clearly wasn't "dead" based on how he looked. You can always see on sagan, if he's on the edge or not, mainly his sweaty face tilted to one side, so I would believe what he said. Still, without the mechanical, he wouldn't have won, because stybar, GVA and WVA seemed to be in much better shape in the end.
 
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The first part of the E3 BinckBank Classic unfolded the way we had expected and planned. There was a small breakaway that didn't pose any threat and we knew I had to be in the front, ready for the attacks. The entire team did an excellent job controlling the race. However, I could feel that my form still hadn't reached its full potential and that I hadn't fully recovered. Then, after the final feedzone, I felt that something had hit my rear derailleur. I'm not sure what it was but it wasn't working correctly. I rode for about 10km with that issue and by the time the mechanic fixed it, it was too late to close the gap to the front group.
 
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Faking mechanical? So, basically you are saying that Sagan was dropped on climb (1km/5,6%) and couldnt even keep up with Naesen and the others. :lol:
 
He still looks too heavy imho, but i think he wanted to dig deep in GW, to get ready for RVV. I think he'll be ready, but might still suffer if some others go all out on the climbs.

PS: which benefit would there be in lying about his mechanical in E3? If anything, it'd be in his best interest that others believe he's worse than he is.
 
Something is wrong with him. That Kwaremont and Paterberg was really heartbreaking :cry: This spring seems lost. They need to find out if this is virus or he is affected on cobbled climbs by his TDF fall.
 
Keram said:
Something is wrong with him. That Kwaremont and Paterberg was really heartbreaking :cry: This spring seems lost. They need to find out if this is virus or he is affected on cobbled climbs by his TDF fall.
Going to Argentina right after Australia, not riding races like omloop, kuurne and strade didn't help. Catching a stomach virus before Tirreno didn't help. Not having teammates you can count on didn't help. Those are some of the possible reasons why. We can however only speculate.
 
It wouldn’t have made any difference given his shape but his team seriously underperformed. Only Oss and Poestlberger were left from very, very early. Then even they were gone by 40km to go (which can be excused in Poestlbergers case as he burned his matches in the Lampaert move). Very sub par stuff given that they are not a weak team on paper.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
It wouldn’t have made any difference given his shape but his team seriously underperformed. Only Oss and Poestlberger were left from very, very early. Then even they were gone by 40km to go (which can be excused in Poestlbergers case as he burned his matches in the Lampaert move). Very sub par stuff given that they are not a weak team on paper.
Totally agree with this. Looks like the whole team not just Sagan is underperforming and off shape.
 
Not too bad today, but not great either. We will see next week if he might have found some better form and shape. Maybe PR is the race that suits him the best nowadays out of the classics anyway... and he will surely be motivated to defend his title.
 
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Seems like he lost some motivation ... and everything that comes with it.

even his interviews are now too "its just a bike race and I won't bother to sprint for a minor placing".
 
Tbh, since he broke up with his wife he seems to have lost his edge. He also doesn't seem to care as much anymore.

Still a 'bad' Sagan finished in the front group. But he wasn't with the 10 strongest. Worrysome. Especially now it seems a new generation is rising.
 

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