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I wonder if he might ride DDW on Wednesday, now that Roubaix looks likely to be cancelled. Matthew Walls has a number for that race still , but as he tested positive yesterday, presumably he won't be riding it now?
 
I wonder if he might ride DDW on Wednesday, now that Roubaix looks likely to be cancelled. Matthew Walls has a number for that race still , but as he tested positive yesterday, presumably he won't be riding it now?
I have thought about it too (and the decision to go or not would have nothing to do with Walls whatsoever...), because otherwise De Ronde would be the very first cobbled classic for him in two years. On the other hand, his schedule has been tough the past two and a half weeks and he may be better off recovering until next Sunday.
 
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Negotiations between Sagan and Bora about an extension of the contract are ongoing and a decision is to be found already in April, Denk said:

"We are currently in talks with Peter. The outcome is open. We have announced new time windows, there should be a decision in April. I am currently having a hard time recognizing a tendency," confirmed Denk, trying to keep the result completely open allow. "We are very grateful for what Sagan has done for us. The sponsors have received a lot of attention through his person," he continued, only to add a "but": "But he is entering the autumn of his career. And he's one of the best paid professionals in the peloton. We just have to weigh up: Do we still want to afford it? Or is it better to invest the money in the youth? "
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"If Peter doesn't stay with us, I have a lot of money available. My sponsors trust me that I can put together the best possible team with the money they give us " he added.

 
Negotiations between Sagan and Bora about an extension of the contract are ongoing and a decision is to be found already in April, Denk said:

"We are currently in talks with Peter. The outcome is open. We have announced new time windows, there should be a decision in April. I am currently having a hard time recognizing a tendency," confirmed Denk, trying to keep the result completely open allow. "We are very grateful for what Sagan has done for us. The sponsors have received a lot of attention through his person," he continued, only to add a "but": "But he is entering the autumn of his career. And he's one of the best paid professionals in the peloton. We just have to weigh up: Do we still want to afford it? Or is it better to invest the money in the youth? "
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"If Peter doesn't stay with us, I have a lot of money available. My sponsors trust me that I can put together the best possible team with the money they give us " he added.

time to win that coming "De Ronde" to show him what autumn of a carreer means in classics
 
time to win that coming "De Ronde" to show him what autumn of a carreer means in classics
From Sagan's current age, Johan Museeuw (for example) added 1 Worlds, 1 Nationals, 1 Ronde, 3 Roubaix, 2x Omloop, 1 E3, and a couple of stage races to his palmares. At the same age, Duclos was still 7 years shy of the first of his 2 Roubaix.

Sagan maybe isn't best placed to compete for speed with the new generation of sprinters (and maybe doesn't climb as well with the puncheurs any more to get a leg up on the fast men for a green jersey) but a) he's set a green jersey mark that is unlikely to be touched for a long time, and b) there's no reason to suspect he can't still win some other big prizes. Especially now that Bora actually seems to be a strong enough team to give him some support in the later stages of a race. Schachmann finished in the front group on ST with him at MSR, which is something I don't recall seeing from a Sagan teammate since, ummm, ever?
 
He should definitely leave, if this is the team opinion. I would really like to see him in DQS or Movistar, for various reasons.
In DQS cause he would win bunch of races with them, and in Movi because he would force old man Valverde to ride another season, and what a joy to watch it would be to see them ride together...
 
I expect Ineos will go all in for him. Van Baarle, Pidcock, Hayter, even Narvaez could still all become very good cobbles riders, but this is a dead part of the season for them since Stannard started to wane.

TDF has been their sole focus until now, and that looks out of their reach for the foreseeable future. So a shift of emphasis for a couple of years might be the sensible choice
 
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I expect Ineos will go all in for him. Van Baarle, Pidcock, Hayter, even Narvaez could still all become very good cobbles riders, but this is a dead part of the season for them since Stannard started to wane.

TDF has been their sole focus until now, and that looks out of their reach for the foreseeable future. So a shift of emphasis for a couple of years might be the sensible choice
They have won 7 of the last 9 Tours, have 2 of the last 3 Tour winners and Giro winners and last year's Vuelta runner up on the books, and just went 1-2-3 at the first properly hilly stage race of the season. They won the Giro last year with a guy who'd never won a stage race for grownups before. I think it's very premature to write them off as a Grand Tour force.
 
I expect Ineos will go all in for him. Van Baarle, Pidcock, Hayter, even Narvaez could still all become very good cobbles riders, but this is a dead part of the season for them since Stannard started to wane.

TDF has been their sole focus until now, and that looks out of their reach for the foreseeable future. So a shift of emphasis for a couple of years might be the sensible choice
I think, specialized won't sagan let go, so that would mean any team he ends up in will change the bike sponsor. I am not sure Pinarello/Ineos will want to accept it. UAE on the other hand is another story. Strickly speaking about bike sponsors, I the wolfpack would probably make most sense, however I am not sure if that ship has not sailed loooong away because of Peter and Patrick being so heavily headed :D Also, big names tend to leave from Quickstep due to money, not vice versa. It's hard to imagine they would somehow find the money for Sagan.
Wherever he goes, if he takes Oss with himself, he'll be just fine.
 
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One has always assumed he is a Specialized rider; he'll stay with them as long as they both want it.....
Well not always, he started as a Cannondale guy. He became specialized only after the Tinkoff part of his life. However, since then, Specialized became more than fond of him. Sagan is definitely more importanto to specialized than is specialized important to Sagan. Imho for Sagan it's just only the money for being their brand ambassador. He can do stunts on whatever bike they will place him, be it specialized, cannondale and anything else.
 
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They have won 7 of the last 9 Tours, have 2 of the last 3 Tour winners and Giro winners and last year's Vuelta runner up on the books, and just went 1-2-3 at the first properly hilly stage race of the season. They won the Giro last year with a guy who'd never won a stage race for grownups before. I think it's very premature to write them off as a Grand Tour force.
I didn't say they weren't a good GT team. I said that their main, possibly only real focus has been winning the TDF. And that looks beyond them for a while if Pogacar is riding for someone else. So while they wait for Pidcock to develop, perhaps they might shift focus a little. Mostly wishful thinking on my part I suspect, as I think it would be interesting to see Sagan there
 
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My $0.01 worth: I prefer quiet negotiations, not shoulder punches via the media. If Dink doesn't think PS is worth the money then just find his next star, and let someone else sign PS. IMO, he is one of the riders who is worth more than his wins (of which he has plenty). I agree with those who think that if he moves, he will either go to a Specialized team, or his new team will become a Specialized team. Him moving back to Cannondale would be a big media blitz for Cdale though.

L3GEION IS A SPECIALIZED TEAM!
 
I expect Ineos will go all in for him. Van Baarle, Pidcock, Hayter, even Narvaez could still all become very good cobbles riders, but this is a dead part of the season for them since Stannard started to wane.

TDF has been their sole focus until now, and that looks out of their reach for the foreseeable future. So a shift of emphasis for a couple of years might be the sensible choice
Wow, "out of reach" seems strong for a team with 2 Tour winners on the roster. I'll grant you I don't think Thomas will win again, but that seems a bit strong.

But to your point, Sagan would be a great add to the team, and maybe make them even mildly sympathetic, or dare I saw watchable going forward.
 
My $0.01 worth: I prefer quiet negotiations, not shoulder punches via the media. If Dink doesn't think PS is worth the money then just find his next star, and let someone else sign PS. IMO, he is one of the riders who is worth more than his wins (of which he has plenty). I agree with those who think that if he moves, he will either go to a Specialized team, or his new team will become a Specialized team. Him moving back to Cannondale would be a big media blitz for Cdale though.

L3GEION IS A SPECIALIZED TEAM!
Didn't Oleg say something similar right before he won De Ronde?
 
No, that was in the spring of 2015 where he was pretty bad. Then in California, everything changed.
Well, pretty bad for his measures, yes. But some would make a deal with the devil to have a spring like that. Yup, he did not win any spring classics, but he was still there and in E3 he created the winning move as usually. He just somehow couldnt last to the finish line that year probably due to "overtraining".
 
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