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Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

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You should retire from watching cycling.

Yesterday was tough for people who've been watching cycling on tv for a very long time though.

There was an inevitability about Sagan hitting the deck & if I'd been asked beforehand to select a handful of candidates for 'race ending crashes' in Paris-Roubaix, his name would have been on the list. That's because since the Tour de Suisse last year it feels like Sagan has been riding around without joy, luck or any "oomph". He's lost that magnetism which he had during his power years & also his uncanny ability to avoid sustaining damage & misfortune.

Modern cycling is just way too fast, too dangerous & too crazy for a former champion to continue getting mauled like this.
 
Agree with all is being said. Having said that, he was surprisingly competitive for the TdF sprints last year, so here's hoping he has one last go at some bunch sprints.
His handling skills aren’t going away, so he’ll always be able to follow some wheels and coast up to the front in a bunch kick. He just may not have the kick to finish against the Philipsens and Ewans and vanAerts any more, and he was never faster than the Greipels and Kittels anyway.

The thing he’s really lost, and it may be covid, or age, or lack of enthusiasm, is that he can’t climb with the best any more, and so he can’t just drop all the guys who he can’t outsprint any time there’s a cat 3 or higher in the final 40km.
 
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His handling skills aren’t going away, so he’ll always be able to follow some wheels and coast up to the front in a bunch kick. He just may not have the kick to finish against the Philipsens and Ewans and vanAerts any more, and he was never faster than the Greipels and Kittels anyway.

The thing he’s really lost, and it may be covid, or age, or lack of enthusiasm, is that he can’t climb with the best any more, and so he can’t just drop all the guys who he can’t outsprint any time there’s a cat 3 or higher in the final 40km.
Agreed. I haven't expected much out of him beyond being a B level sprinter for some time. That 2020 Giro solo victory really being the last time he gave us something different. I just hope he actually sprints this TdF, he hasn't even tried in the finale this year except at San Juan, that's what I'm the most perplexed about. He gets into an okay position then just sits up.
 
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I just hope he actually sprints this TdF, he hasn't even tried in the finale this year except at San Juan, that's what I'm the most perplexed about. He gets into an okay position then just sits up.
I'm not sure i'd want him to sprint in his current condition. He's always been somewhat of a rogue sprinter who didn't shy away from "unconventional" actions in a sprint. Not sure it's the ideal combo.
 
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Yesterday was tough for people who've been watching cycling on tv for a very long time though.

There was an inevitability about Sagan hitting the deck & if I'd been asked beforehand to select a handful of candidates for 'race ending crashes' in Paris-Roubaix, his name would have been on the list. That's because since the Tour de Suisse last year it feels like Sagan has been riding around without joy, luck or any "oomph". He's lost that magnetism which he had during his power years & also his uncanny ability to avoid sustaining damage & misfortune.

Modern cycling is just way too fast, too dangerous & too crazy for a former champion to continue getting mauled like this.
Modern cycling is just what you say. He needs the investment in the skills he has to be in the very action he has been behind this year. It may be too late for reclaiming that this season, if ever.
 
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Hola, soy novato en el foro. ¿Y puedo saber cómo puedo instalar el mod Peter Sagan en qué tipo de máquina? ¿Y encenderlo estaría en desacuerdo con las otras modificaciones que estoy usando actualmente en este juego de alta techloky?
 
Hola, soy novato en el foro. ¿Y puedo saber cómo puedo instalar el mod Peter Sagan en qué tipo de máquina? ¿Y encenderlo estaría en desacuerdo con las otras modificaciones que estoy usando actualmente en este juego de alta techloky?
I got this at a translate site:

Hello, I am a newbie in the forum. And can I know how I can install the Peter Sagan mod on what type of machine? And turning it on would be at odds with the other modifications I'm currently using on this high-tech game?

A game of some type I can't help.
 
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It was big unsportmanship from Sagan to shouting on laying guy on the road. Poor czech guy told in iterview for slovak TV he thinks it was not his fault and it was not direct question. They were debating finish though. But it was obvious he felt bad about it and somehow need to tell he is not guilty. Actually it was Sagan who knocked him down. Bittner should be mad, no feeling guilty at all.

Anyway 2018 Sagan would win this with two bike lenghts with this competition. Sad to see.
 
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There's no way back up for Peter the rider, there are still chances for the man.
Good post…

I wonder why he behaves like this. These alcohol incidents…

Hope he won‘t have a traffic accident one day, if he continues driving under the influence of alcohol.

That‘s something dangerous. Possibly, Davide Rebellin died because of this issue.

Sad news about Sagan. I‘d have preferred if he would have continued his career beyond 2023, and if he would have continued living like a really professional athlete.

He wastes his talent, at the moment…
 
“Balnea vina Venus corrumpunt corpora nostra, sed vitam faciunt balnea vina Venus” ("Baths, wine and women debilitate our bodies, but baths, wine and women make life"), is a famous tomb inscription of a certain Titus Claudius Secondus, a freed slave of Emperor Claudius. It's simple, especially for young men living in Monaco on two wheels.
 
I think more a moped type of scooter, not that type.
Not the best choice if you've had enough to blow a positive. Lucky he didn't crash himself.
But, per Keram's observation: "Anyway 2018 Sagan would win this with two bike lenghts with this competition. Sad to see.". Couldn't agree more and the lack of training focus has him overworked just to stay in the neighborhood. That's dangerous for everyone. Unless he spent the last month focusing on training and no party favors he's in for a painful Tour.
 
This Benji blob...maybe he should acknowledge how his judgments about someone he doesn't even know are misplaced. I guess there's no way of stopping this phenomena of social media "personalities" being the moralists of today.

It's no secret that Sagan isn't particularly well liked in the pro peloton. I don't know the guy personally but from what I could tell throughout his career he seems like a giant douche. Hopefully for his own sake he gets his act together, I wouldn't be surprised if he hits rock bottom after his cycling career is over.
 
Not wanting to play armchair psychologist, but his imperious phase ended and slow decline started at the same time announcement of his divorce. Hope he finds peace and calm post-career
It did indeed. It looked like he just lost motivation to train and live the pro cyclist lifestyle. He probably has stayed on 2-3 years too long but maybe he thought the move to TE would remotivate him. I was pretty sure it was going to play out the way it has, tho...
 
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