Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[peloton]

I thought that the Grease clip was great.
More about the newly married couple than anything else, and besides, harmless.

 

[Electress]

Grease thing seemed like a bit of fun to me. Yes, it's a promo as well, but that is part if his job too, and he's not really cool in that. He's an extrovert, sometimes he goes to far, but on the whole seems to manage the huge talent and pressure rather well for the age he is the fame he has and the money at his disposal. I think his apparent popularity with team mates and the media and the wider peloton is a pretty good indication he's not some Cipo egomaniac.

And though I don't have good Spanish I so agree about Purito. He's witty and self deprecating and charming even in translation. Not amenable to you tube but thoroughly likeable and engaging. Bet he'd be a great dinner companion.

 

[yoyokt]

that Sagan grease video is so funny

 

[Fernandez]

"Sagan to recon Rio Olympics course after Tour de San Luis" ... I dont think he has nothing to do in such a hard parcours.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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"Sagan to recon Rio Olympics course after Tour de San Luis" ... I dont think he has nothing to do in such a hard parcours.

Probably not but he's still Slovakia's best chance of winning.

 

[Angliru]

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Purito is witty. He's funny, but he doesn't do physical comedy, slapstick or stunts that can be put on YouTube. Hence why you mostly need to speak Spanish to appreciate it.

Perhaps if you live in Spain because I just dont see any kind of publicity involving Purito anywhere else.

BTW what is funny about Purito if no "physical comedy, slapstick or stunts that can be put on YouTube" ?

Obviously if you haven't bared witness to it yourself it can't possibly have happened or be true. Curiously one of the most prominent and well known Purito classics is his photo shop of the Sagan derriere pinch with a Tom Boonen crash photo. That is just one of many examples of Puritio fine sense of humour.

Edit: Additionally it would seem that Pro Cycling mag and Cycling News would agree. They reference Purito's "quick and wry wit" in describing a featured article on him in the January issue of Pro Cycling magazine.

 

[armchairclimber]

I actually quite enjoyed the daft Grease thing. In an era of media management where all the rough edges are usually knocked off stars, resulting in dull interviews (famously lampooned by Alan Shearer)...I don't mind it. I especially don't mind it if he made a chump of himself to help his missus' business. I'd probably do the same.

On more serious matter though, I appear to have fallen madly in love with Libertine Seguros.

 

[tomorrow]

Re: Re:

"Sagan to recon Rio Olympics course after Tour de San Luis" ... I dont think he has nothing to do in such a hard parcours.

Probably not but he's still Slovakia's best chance of winning.

well, maybe no exactly of winning, but definitely, the best chance for a worthy representing the country. However, with Sagan you never now, in Florence it was very bumpy too, and Sagan has been making the guys like Purito, Nibali, etc. nearly to the very end of the race, which imho also animated the race, without him being there, they might have not show such a devastating attachk.
All the other slovak riders would probably have serious trouble even finishing the race. Only maybe Peter Velits could be in consideration, if he got into at least 80-90% of his 2011 year, which is probably not going to happen.

 

[King Boonen]

Sagan's bike is absolutely hideous!!

Can't wait to see it

 

[PeterB]

Re: Re:

Obviously if you haven't bared witness to it yourself it can't possibly have happened or be true. Curiously one of the most prominent and well known Purito classics is his photo shop of the Sagan derriere pinch with a Tom Boonen crash photo. That is just one of many examples of Puritio fine sense of humour.

Edit: Additionally it would seem that Pro Cycling mag and Cycling News would agree. They reference Purito's "quick and wry wit" in describing a featured article on him in the January issue of Pro Cycling magazine.

Actually, to me that photoshopped pic did not seem funny at all - there is a rider crashing hard and ruining his season goals and someone thinks it is the right time to make fun out of it? That does not seem very tactful and I certainly have a different idea of how fine sense of humour should look like.

 

[Billie]

Not sure why Sagan went to the UCI gala looking like a biker cause his tie is absolutely great

 

[Afrank]

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Sagan's bike is absolutely hideous!!

Can't wait to see it

It's the perfect bike for him. Flashy and show-offish.

I actually really like it to be honest.

 

[rhubroma]

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Haven't watched it either.

So how did you form an opinion about it.

Just reeks of: 'look at me! you haven't watched me for a couple of months, look at me! Look at me!'

To me, I see a guy who is insanely talented, loves to ride his bike, animates races, does his best to win many races, wins some races, is respected by his peers, and yet still doesn't take himself too seriously.

This isn't Cipollini-style self-promotion. Sagan is a man more confident in himself than a Cav or Cippo. He doesn't need the unnecessary bravado. He's comfortable putting himself in a situation (in this case, the Grease video) where he can appear both foolish and carefree. This also isn't Chris Froome appearing in a ridiculous sumo outfit. Sagan still maintains his own brand of cool and style even in the midst of parody.

Someone like Cippo made a fool of himself unintentionally. He thought he was being bold and brash with some of his outlandish outfits, but really he was humiliating himself. Sagan, in this video, makes no attempt at taking himself seriously. That's the difference. Most pro athletes could stand to learn a thing or two from Peter Sagan.

And before anyone jumps on my "bravado" comment. Yes Sagan has it. Tons of it. Like when he crossed the line after winning the World Championships. That's where it belongs. Swearing at reporters or mouthing off to your competitors is how some others channel their insecurities. Sagan, however, makes his loudest statements while riding his bike.

To the bolded: that is a relative statement. What sexes it up a bit in the South may not be viewed as such in he North, though I wouldn't over analyze it psychologically.

 

[King Boonen]

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Sagan's bike is absolutely hideous!!

Can't wait to see it

It's the perfect bike for him. Flashy and show-offish.

I actually really like it to be honest.

Certainly is perfect!


Way too over the top for me.

 

[Jancouver]

Re: Re:

Sagan's bike is absolutely hideous!!

Can't wait to see it

It's the perfect bike for him. Flashy and show-offish.

I actually really like it to be honest.

Certainly is perfect!


Way too over the top for me.

I doubt the gang at the Specialized even collaborated with Sagan on his bike design.

They made it and said: "Look, this is your new bike and if your don't like it, go f... yourself"

 

[denominator]

Re: Re:

"Sagan to recon Rio Olympics course after Tour de San Luis" ... I dont think he has nothing to do in such a hard parcours.

Probably not but he's still Slovakia's best chance of winning.

well, maybe no exactly of winning, but definitely, the best chance for a worthy representing the country. However, with Sagan you never now, in Florence it was very bumpy too, and Sagan has been making the guys like Purito, Nibali, etc. nearly to the very end of the race, which imho also animated the race, without him being there, they might have not show such a devastating attachk.
All the other slovak riders would probably have serious trouble even finishing the race. Only maybe Peter Velits could be in consideration, if he got into at least 80-90% of his 2011 year, which is probably not going to happen.

Agree concerning P. Velits. Sagan will probably regard the Worlds in Quatar as more suited for him, especially if desert wind blows. Rio has too much cummulative altitude difference, the medals will go to people like Valverde, Nibali, Purito - excellent climbers with classics experience.
BTW the recon will match Peter's 26th birthday. We'll see what he has to say after that.

 

[Bad Ronald]

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I doubt the gang at the Specialized even collaborated with Sagan on his bike design.

They made it and said: "Look, this is your new bike and if your don't like it, go f... yourself"

Funny, but not really true ...I've had the opportunity to design many of his bikes starting from his Cannondale days and now at Specialized. I know his taste pretty well at this point...

https://www.instagram.com/p/0qKJ-7HxUr/?taken-by=notenoughswedes

 

[Jancouver]

Re: Re:

I doubt the gang at the Specialized even collaborated with Sagan on his bike design.

They made it and said: "Look, this is your new bike and if your don't like it, go f... yourself"

Funny, but not really true ...I've had the opportunity to design many of his bikes starting from his Cannondale days and now at Specialized. I know his taste pretty well at this point...

https://www.instagram.com/p/0qKJ-7HxUr/?taken-by=notenoughswedes

I wish that was the case ...

Perhaps you showed him the design before the bike was made. Well, I would believe Cannondale would take some input from Sagan, but we all know how Mike Sinyard and his crew operates ... oops, I hope I won't get sued by Specialized for writing my opinion on the internet.

Damn, how I wish Sagan was not riding those ugly Chinese bikes. Aren't those made by Giant or by some other company anyway? Either way, those are ugly China/Taiwan bikes ...

 

[BigMac]

I see he dropped the 90's greasy mobster look, finally.

Perhaps you showed him the design before the bike was made. Well, I would believe Cannondale would take some input from Sagan, but we all know how Mike Sinyard and his crew operates ... oops, I hope I won't get sued by Specialized for writing my opinion on the internet.

As long as you ditch a Venge or a Tarmac and not their Roubaix.

 

[rrYan]

Peter Sagan - 2015

New season for Peter Sagan slowly coming, but who would like to reminisce on the highlights of the previous (seen from Pete Sagan), I give attention to the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBjfT5y_P2k

Thank you and have a nice watching.

 

[Irondan]

Re: Peter Sagan - 2015

New season for Peter Sagan slowly coming, but who would like to reminisce on the highlights of the previous (seen from Pete Sagan), I give attention to the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBjfT5y_P2k

Thank you and have a nice watching.

Cool video! Thank you for posting a link to it.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Re: Peter Sagan - 2015

Thank you and have a nice watching.

That is an extremely well done video.

Very, very impressive work .

Finally, the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in Peter Sagan, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is one hell of a bike racer. This is a great rider and you should stand around and believe him. You should believe in this athletes, and you should believe in his skill. I'll be a fan of the Peter Sagan for as long as I live. And there are no secrets — this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it. So Vive le Peter Sagan!

 

[King Boonen]

Second. And so it begins...

 

[Alexandre B.]

What are we waiting for?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=27656

2016 edition

 

[Rollthedice]

Fantastic video, thanks a lot. Remembering the epic TOC win was nice. So, first second place this year.