Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[tobydawq]

so boxed in and sad face again. I think that "older/wiser" Sagan will need a train in the sprints after all.

Ah, he seemed still on top of his positioning game but just as Ewan launched, QuickStep boys and Hofstetter got up there and cut him out. That could have happened to any version of Sagan.

Looking at the heli shots the last three kilometres, he still looked to be floating and deciding himself which wheel to be on.

 

[tomorrow]

Ah, he seemed still on top of his positioning game but just as Ewan launched, QuickStep boys and Hofstetter got up there and cut him out. That could have happened to any version of Sagan.

Looking at the heli shots the last three kilometres, he still looked to be floating and deciding himself which wheel to be on.

and that's exactly a fact I am pointing at, it could have been happening to Sagan all the time, but it didn't, and Sagan was taking benefit of it. If you look at all the recent sprints of him, 8 times of 10 he's boxed in. And now think of the coolest sprint wins of his, e.g. the Doha WCH or the stage at Eneco/BincBank(not sure which year it was), where the road opened in front of him like the see in front of Moses did. It's like this ability somehow jumped on WVA somehow . But actually, being older, 2 Le Tour incidents and thus taking fewer risks is to be blamed.

 

[yaco]

Sagan still has the fire in his belly as evidenced by him always fighting to get on the wheel in sprint finishes - It's a matter of whether he still has the power.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

He's still a master at positioning himself, yes. He was on the wheel of Hodeg, then he saw that they were too far back and moments later he was on the wheel of Ewan.

 

[Keram]

It was his first race day. Maybe he didnt want to take unnecesary risk. We will see tommorrow if he had some form or not.

 

[jmdirt]

It was his first race day. Maybe he didnt want to take unnecesary risk. We will see tommorrow if he had some form or not.

Iron Maiden post for you: "666 the Number of the Beast..."!

 

[SafeBet]

Sagan will ride Volta a Catalunya which means no Harelbeke/Gent-Wevelgem...

 

[tobydawq]

He will deviate from the Saganian calendar and ride the Volta a Catalunya instead of the first cobbled classics. Makes sense to get as many racing days in his legs as possible before the monuments but he cannot get there in time.

 

[tobydawq]

Look at me, I'm SafeBet, I'm so fast, smh.

 

[Keram]

WTF I am curious if he try Milan-San Remo. But anyway we all know he has no business in monuments.

 

[tomorrow]

Peter Sagan: I did a lot of work at Tirreno-Adriatico

Former world champion aims to 'move another level up' at Milan-San Remo and Volta a Catalunya

www.cyclingnews.com

Quite surprised he was so honest, about how badly the covid hit him, as far as training is concerned. Inbetween the lines, I am afraid, the spring is over for him. However, it is surprise for me, that he plans to go to the Olympic. I have not noticed that. So let's hope for good summer and autumn.

 

[spalco]

Peter Sagan: I did a lot of work at Tirreno-Adriatico

Former world champion aims to 'move another level up' at Milan-San Remo and Volta a Catalunya

www.cyclingnews.com

Quite surprised he was so honest, about how badly the covid hit him, as far as training is concerned. Inbetween the lines, I am afraid, the spring is over for him. However, it is surprise for me, that he plans to go to the Olympic. I have not noticed that. So let's hope for good summer and autumn.

Well, why not? Olympics are always fun, and seeing as he's still #17 ranked rider on PCS whereas the next best Slovak rider is #474, so there's not much competition to qualify.

 

[tomorrow]

Well, why not? Olympics are always fun, and seeing as he's still #17 ranked rider on PCS whereas the next best Slovak rider is #474, so there's not much competition to qualify.

The problem is not with Slovakia having no replacement, but with the course where he has little chance and there's the time schedule problem with TdF a and quite a lot travelling. I was expecting he would concentrate on WCH.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

It's a lost spring for sure. Let's hope he's back to some sort of form in the Giro or, more likely, in the Tour.

 

[tobydawq]

It's a lost spring for sure. Let's hope he's back to some sort of form in the Giro or, more likely, in the Tour.

I really hope for the Giro, especially because he won't have to ride against the crossers or Alaphilippe there. Lame, I know.

 

[johnymax]

Sagan to take the double The Ronde - PR. You've heard it here first.

 

[tobydawq]

A relieving performance. But this was the fifth time he was fourth in this race

 

[Keram]

Better than expected today. But MSR still unbeaten

 

[Netserk]

A relieving performance. But this was the fifth time he was fourth in this race

4th, 2nd (or 10th) - whatever. He was the 2nd last rider over the Poggio of the first group and never in a position or with legs to win.

 

[tobydawq]

4th, 2nd (or 10th) - whatever. He was the 2nd last rider over the Poggio of the first group and never in a position or with legs to win.

I didn't say he was looking like his 2017 self, now, did I...? But I had honestly feared he would be dropped on the Cipressa, and now I begin to think that with Catalunya in his legs he might yet reach a good level, especially for Roubaix.

 

[SafeBet]

4th, 2nd (or 10th) - whatever. He was the 2nd last rider over the Poggio of the first group and never in a position or with legs to win.

His sprint looked much better than I anticipated though. And much better than some of his other sprints in this race when he was the biggest favorite.

 

[Kazistuta]

4th, 2nd (or 10th) - whatever. He was the 2nd last rider over the Poggio of the first group and never in a position or with legs to win.

But considering the expectations beforehand don't you think it was far better?

 

[johnymax]

His sprint looked much better than I anticipated though. And much better than some of his other sprints in this race when he was the biggest favorite.

Maybe this is the right tactic for the future when he'll be on better form . Hold something back on the Poggio and come in 15-20th position over the top. Make people believe he is weak, and then wait for the sprint and give everything there. I'm sure if he had chosen this tactic for every M-S in his career, he'd have a couple of wins by now. But he almost everytime chooses the attacking way, which is of course more admirable for fans, but at the same time probably the harder way.

I remember looking at betting odds before the races for the classics and I think from 2012 to 2019 he always had the shortest odds for Milano - Sanremo. Last year was the first time after quite a long period when he wasn't the clear No.1 favourite for the bookies. And this season was the first time he flew completely under the radar.

 

[Netserk]

But considering the expectations beforehand don't you think it was far better?

Better than feared, absolutely. He looked horrible at Tirreno, but I still don't think he will contend any Classics.

I'm just really disappointed with another wasted spring. Before he got covid, I really thought he'd be in good (not amazing) shape now.

 

[Blanco]

9th Top-10 for Peter, equal with King Kelly and Gypsy, but sadly no wins...
Much better race than expected though...