He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
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hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
SHAD0W93 said:hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
Maybe I'm out of touch but wouldn't that still be the same thing if he was racing or not even though the only body that will test him is of his own doing? If any pro uses a drug that is considered doping and some random joe uses it to boost their performance, does that not equal the same result besides he is not competing.
SHAD0W93 said:hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
Maybe I'm out of touch but wouldn't that still be the same thing if he was racing or not even though the only body that will test him is of his own doing? If any pro uses a drug that is considered doping and some random joe uses it to boost their performance, does that not equal the same result besides he is not competing.
hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
but it makes no differencered_flanders said:hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
If my training partner is taking EPO and testosterone, he's doping. It's certainly against zero rules, but it's still doping.
He's taking PEDs and being a tool. He's not doping or robbing you of your livelihood.red_flanders said:hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
If my training partner is taking EPO and testosterone, he's doping. It's certainly against zero rules, but it's still doping.
durianrider said:The numbers are from Strava.
hrotha said:He's taking PEDs and being a tool. He's not doping or robbing you of your livelihood.red_flanders said:hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
If my training partner is taking EPO and testosterone, he's doping. It's certainly against zero rules, but it's still doping.
what do you think phil would say if I straight up asked him if he was using PEDs? He's at least a liar who stakes his entire livelihood on a lie, if nothing else.hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
hrotha said:He's taking PEDs and being a tool. He's not doping or robbing you of your livelihood.red_flanders said:hrotha said:He's not doing the same thing unless he's competing, though. Doping by definition requires anti-doping rules. If none apply to him, he's not doping.
If my training partner is taking EPO and testosterone, he's doping. It's certainly against zero rules, but it's still doping.
OK, I hear your tongue-in-cheek and raise you: master riders aren't doping to win, they are just trying to improve their quality of life! :lol:proffate said:.Froomestrong. said:I dont "know" that Phil is clean, but I can suggest that there is absolutely nothing for him to gain by doping now. No one cares if he gets KoM's, and his income isnt dependent on it.
same argument applies to masters racers, who we all know as a general rule are clean as a whistle!
the delgados said:@durianrider
I could be way off base, but at this point I think people are more interested in your obsession with Gaimon rather than whether or not he is on the gear.
Did he bang your wife or girlfriend (qm)
Any theories I have for your obsession will remain undisclosed because I am not a doctor, and it would be unfair to speculate.
Just one question: You have admitted in the past you used steroids out of competition because you were curious to feel the results. Fair enough.
Why are you on this mission to expose an ex-pro who is trying to make a living riding his bike wearing a cookie uniform (qm)
Oh yeah, just as an aside, a couple years ago you said you would give anyone 10 thousand dollars if they could make you a better person. You were adamant, so I took you up on the offer. I mean, even if I wasn't successful we would have spent a couple days riding, shooting the schit, eating some mangoes and drinking Sprite; so it seemed like a win win situation in that no one would lose.
But you didn't respond. Sigh.
durianrider said:PS the 10k offer still stands for anyone who could transform my life to something radically better than it is today. I don't see how that is possible though. Can you think how it could be better?
durianrider said:the delgados said:@durianrider
I could be way off base, but at this point I think people are more interested in your obsession with Gaimon rather than whether or not he is on the gear.
Did he bang your wife or girlfriend (qm)
Any theories I have for your obsession will remain undisclosed because I am not a doctor, and it would be unfair to speculate.
Just one question: You have admitted in the past you used steroids out of competition because you were curious to feel the results. Fair enough.
Why are you on this mission to expose an ex-pro who is trying to make a living riding his bike wearing a cookie uniform (qm)
Oh yeah, just as an aside, a couple years ago you said you would give anyone 10 thousand dollars if they could make you a better person. You were adamant, so I took you up on the offer. I mean, even if I wasn't successful we would have spent a couple days riding, shooting the schit, eating some mangoes and drinking Sprite; so it seemed like a win win situation in that no one would lose.
But you didn't respond. Sigh.
Why is he so obsessed about Thorfin Sassquatch? I talk with Thorfin and he says he has never even met Phil but cookie man went on this incredible tirade of slander against him.
Ive ridden with Phil and seen his mutant watts first hand. Ive never seen anything like it and Ive ridden hard rides with many pro's over the last 20 years from Lance to Cadel to Froome and Valverde. Hard rides, not beach cruises. Rides so hard I wasnt the first person to get dropped, team riders got dropped because they were out of condition or couldnt be assed riding so hard. Ive taken PED's before out of competition and know what is natural and what is not. You can see it in peoples legs. Ive got a couple of friends who have used EPO and didn't tell me until after I called them out on it privately. If it looks too good to be true then it is regarding performances.
I just find it really curious how a guy with a soap bar tattoo is riding EPO watts per kg and flipping off so hard at anyone who points out the obvious when he has made his new career on being the 'call out guy'. I find it all interesting and after he insulted me publicaly for asking him private questions I guess Ive slipped into a WWE style banter match.
Cookie man didn't score anyone I know. The chicks I know wouldn't find a guy with arms skinny than theirs attractive. Each to their own though.
Natasha told me if I got as skinny cookie man then Im sleeping on the sofa lol.
This is my gf Natasha.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvxo_jFlCde/
PS the 10k offer still stands for anyone who could transform my life to something radically better than it is today. I don't see how that is possible though. Can you think how it could be better?