Pierre Rolland

[SafeBet]

What did Marco Velo say? Don't think I saw it.

I raised the red flag, but Quintana told me several times to speed up, then he overtook us and went away.

 

[PeterB]

They PASSED the motorcycle. There is no way they didnt see it. I am sure that if you are going at high speeds, downhill you can tell whether the object next to you is stationary or moving?

In a situation as they were in, your perception is significantly selective. You simply notice only what is vital for you at that very moment and disregard whatever your instincts (because that is what basically governs your actions at that point) consider unimportant.

I can very well imagine the moto was just a sort of moving obstacle to which they did not attach any special meaning and had no reason to devote any mind capacity on registering it. Especially if the message that motos might have actually been important on that descent did not reach them.

 

[damian13ster]

I raised the red flag, but Quintana told me several times to speed up, then he overtook us and went away.

So Quintana thought that he was speaking to a ghost and motorcycle just happened to be there randomly and driver thought that [sarcasm]great Don Nairo[/sarcasm] was speaking to him instead?

 

[veji11]

If the driver of a motorcycle is not lying they were signalling for him to speed up multiple times. I am pretty sure one of those times flag was up since it was safe for riders to take their hand off the wheel, it was the same for motorcycle which has better stability on the road. And then after he didnt they passed. Unless you claim that he is lying (what possible motivation would he have to do that, especially compared to riders who gained unfair advantage thanks to that and are trying to save their face) the facts are pretty obvious here.

Sure they told him to speed up, but maybe they thought he was there to signal the dangerous turns at the beginning and once on a faster (and safe ! wet but safe !) part of the descent they were thinking "move away you moron, we are not in a dangerous part anymore, let us race we have made a gap" rather than "he he we are gonna overtake that dude, and pretend we didn't see no flag and get a big gap on those retards who stayed behind, such a clever plan !!"

 

[kingjr]

So Quintana thought that he was speaking to a ghost and motorcycle just happened to be there randomly and driver thought that [sarcasm]great Don Nairo[/sarcasm] was speaking to him instead?

But what did Velo reply when Quintana told him to go faster (if that's what happened)?

 

[mr. tibbs]

It doesn't matter if he saw it or not. RCS (mis)communicated the descent was NOT neutralized.

Haha wow--this sentence describes, literally and formally, the mess of that stage: a paranthetically addressed lacuna and a double (triple, even?) negative that may or may not just confirm a state of normalcy.

That's poetry, cine! This should be on CN's front page.

 

[cineteq]

Haha wow--this sentence describes, literally and formally, the mess of that stage: a paranthetically addressed lacuna and a double (triple, even?) negative that may or may not just confirm a state of normalcy.

That's poetry, cine! This should be on CN's front page.

Thanks bro, finally someone notices some of my 'hidden' talents

 

[veji11]

But what did Velo reply when Quintana told him to go faster (if that's what happened)?

We have nothing to prove Quintana and Rolland/Hesjedal knew in any way that Velo was there to "prevent attacks", maybe they genuinely thought he was there to point at the dangerous bits.. maybe what they heard from their DS was "guys, there's going to be motorbikes in front of view to show you the dangerous bits" and that's it, and then when they want to do the descent and have this moron in front not moving out of the way, they just overtake him...

 

[damian13ster]

Thats why they were many people and other riders saying its not the fault of cyclists but RCS and Movistar's Europacar DS. That was before riders started lying through their teeth though about not seeing motorcycles, flags, and all of them following a rider in front of them (unless they meant Cataldo).

Quintana claims he followed Rolland
Rolland claims he followed Quintana
Hesjedal claims he followed those two.

If that was the case and everybody tried to get at the backwheel they would eventually ride backwards..........

 

[Afrank]

I raised the red flag, but Quintana told me several times to speed up, then he overtook us and went away.

Okay, sounds like they would have seen it then. But it does seem strange to me that the moto driver wouldn't try to make it more clear to them what was happening if he was indeed meant to neutralize the racing.

There's also a good chance they may have thought it was to show that the descent might be dangerous as well IMO and that it wasn't to neutralize the race.

 

[hfer07]

Rolland is from now on EVIL - he and that Quintana guy along with the Canadian folk are all EVIL

should have stopped when the red flag was waived by the motor guy-- EVIL French rider!!!

 

[Gaul 58]

I thought Voeckler was widely regarded as being Europcar's evil rider... can they have two on the same team?

 

[cineteq]

Rolland is from now on EVIL - he and that Quintana guy along with the Canadian folk are all EVIL

should have stopped when the red flag was waived by the motor guy-- EVIL French rider!!!

Who's saying this? It's irrelevant. The only EVIL here is RCS.

 

[trevim]

I thought Voeckler was widely regarded as being Europcar's evil rider... can they have two on the same team?

Tour '11: they were all devils then

 

[hfer07]

Who's saying this? It's irrelevant. The only EVIL here is RCS.

Oh common !!! Is it that difficult to notice that a was joking??
With all the BS being thrown all around the CN forums about the incident - I just wanted to mock a bit - that's all

 

[cineteq]

Oh common !!! Is it that difficult to notice that a was joking??
With all the BS being thrown all around the CN forums about the incident - I just wanted to mock a bit - that's all

BS is right. Then we agree that RED FLAG is the evilest of all!

 

[hfer07]

damn- gotta love Rolland- today again he set the race on fire-not afraid of attacking while grinding that monster gear on the slopes. I sincerely wish & Hope he makes the podium

 

[damian13ster]

Yeah. Much respect for his riding style.

Dont agree with podium though because of stage 16. Aru or Majka to end up there (and prefferably both)

 

[cineteq]

Best thing that happened to Rolland's cycling career to date: to have ridden 2014 Giro

 

[Michele]

Im really cheering for him to make the podium cause he would deserve it, as he was the first one attacking in many stages.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Best thing that happened to Rolland's cycling career to date: to have ridden 2014 Giro

The guy won on Alpe d'Huez aged 24 and won the MB.
His style was always: attack, not just at this Giro.

 

[ILovecycling]

Best thing that happened to Rolland's cycling career to date: to have ridden 2014 Giro

This!
He is one of my favourite riders now.
I liked him on Tour 2012 but its another level

 

[mr. tibbs]

This!
He is one of my favourite riders now.
I liked him on Tour 2012 but its another level

He might be my favorite over all now. Thread should be retitled:

Official Pierre Rolland is the Next Kloden Thread.

 

[hiero2]

He might be my favorite over all now. Thread should be retitled:

Official Pierre Rolland is the Next Kloden Thread.

Hehe - yeah. I really like the way he has gone on the attack in this Giro - and in races in the past. I think Tommy's style has rubbed off a little - and it makes for some good racing!

 

[Dazed and Confused]

From yesterday, but it will work well now:

Impressive performance, of course Rolland can climb but he clearly stepped up the mental game for the MTT today.

I hope we will see a long distance attack on Sella Razzo tomorrow.