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Poll: Ullrich vs Schleck
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- Jun 22, 2009
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funilly enough i think they're both underachievers.
But man, dope or no dope, regardless of results, ullrich was all class
schleck can go suck a lemon.
But man, dope or no dope, regardless of results, ullrich was all class
schleck can go suck a lemon.
- Apr 9, 2011
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:funilly enough i think there both underachievers.
But man, dope or no dope, regardless of results, ullrich was all class
Agreed
Although CAS may remove much of his work
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jordan5000 said:
I thought the question was going to be "Who would win a TT? An Ullrich that hasn't raced in over 5 years vs. an in shape Andy?"
But to answer the actual question, I don't think that Andy will end up with any more than 4 seconds, and that he will win the TDF one day.
- May 25, 2010
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I don't see Andy winning a Tour. Last year was his opportunity, but he wasn't good enough. He also didn't seem to have the form he had in 2010.
Now that the TdF returned to more TT kilometres he won't have a chance to win it. He could give it 1 more shot, but I would really suggest him to ride the Giro. A race he could win multiple times if he focused on it.
What's better? 5 2nd places in the TdF or 2 Giro wins? I'd go with winning the Giro.
Now that the TdF returned to more TT kilometres he won't have a chance to win it. He could give it 1 more shot, but I would really suggest him to ride the Giro. A race he could win multiple times if he focused on it.
What's better? 5 2nd places in the TdF or 2 Giro wins? I'd go with winning the Giro.
jordan5000 said:
Ullrich probably. I could be wrong, but I don't think the TDF will go back to just one long-ish individual time trial in the foreseeable future.
Not next year, obviously, and not in the centenary edition, either. It wouldn't make sense. By 2014 there will be other GC riders to worry about.
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Andy is riding for Bruyneel now he will gain minutes in the GTs and just follow in the mountains.
Rather than who will get the most seconds, how about a straight who will win the most Tour de France's..
In that case, I vote Ullrich.
In that case, I vote Ullrich.
I'm baffled that people are writing Schleck off at 26 and saying he'll never win a TdF. Armstrong and Indurain were both younger when they won their first, not to mention Sastre, Evans and Pantani, and that's just recent winners.
Assuming Contador wins his case, I can't think of anybody else other than him who's more likely to win a Tour in the future.
Assuming Contador wins his case, I can't think of anybody else other than him who's more likely to win a Tour in the future.
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Bavarianrider said:Yeah cause riding under Riis is much less suspicious
I think Riis don't know so many people who can talk with other people to take care of things. It's my asumption.
- Mar 13, 2009
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c&cfan said:
All this is completely beside the point. The way I understood it, people will disregard Andy's results from now on because riding with Bruyneel implies "cheating" (to stay in the appropriate semantic field for this subforum). If riding with Bruyneel implies cheating, then the same must apply to Contador. Following your logic, cheating is OK for the "boss" (coincidentally LA's nickname), "the most talented guy to ever ride a bike", but not for spoiled brats.
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c&cfan said:
The best post I ever read here.. (exclude the hitch introduction of some races, that are fantastic too).
- Apr 9, 2011
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Christian said:So it's OK to cheat as long as you don't have to
I think TSF is saying that JB did not have Contador best interest at heart re race results when he was racing with Astana.
As for Contador - the whole CAS hearing does enough the question the cleanest of his results if associated with JB or not.
and PS c&c fan Contador is not the greatest/talented rider ever there is only 1 and he is from Belgium
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