No. I am still speaking about Swedish commentators. ![Wink ;) ;)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Also, vayers claiming on Twitter that 2005 time is 9:33 up to Mende.
Also, vayers claiming on Twitter that 2005 time is 9:33 up to Mende.
The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
Dr.ugs said:No. I am still speaking about Swedish commentators.
Also, vayers claiming on Twitter that 2005 time is 9:33 up to Mende.
Gung Ho Gun said:2005:3,1 km@10,0%---9:12---average speed 20.22 km/h(Armstrong-Basso-Ullrich-Evans)
Must have been very cleans![]()
Gung Ho Gun said:2005:3,1 km@10,0%---9:12---average speed 20.22 km/h(Armstrong-Basso-Ullrich-Evans)
Must have been very cleans![]()
Scarponi said:Gung Ho Gun said:2005:3,1 km@10,0%---9:12---average speed 20.22 km/h(Armstrong-Basso-Ullrich-Evans)
Must have been very cleans![]()
2005-2008 evans would be climbing far better than Quintana today and even Froome would have a hard time dislodging him imo
roundabout said:I checked the youtube video of that stage today and it confirmed my recollection that the start of the climb by the main group was missed by the coverage.
Makes me wonder how the climb was timed.
roundabout said:Scarponi said:Gung Ho Gun said:2005:3,1 km@10,0%---9:12---average speed 20.22 km/h(Armstrong-Basso-Ullrich-Evans)
Must have been very cleans![]()
2005-2008 evans would be climbing far better than Quintana today and even Froome would have a hard time dislodging him imo
Evans climbed Plateau de Beille in 2007 30 seconds slower that Quintana and co this year.
willbick said:When comparing recent climbing rates to those of the EPO days people seem to assume it is impossible for a 'clean' rider to match the EPO times, but surely there has been gains in other ways in recent years. E.g. Prolonged altitude training camps (which is basically a legal expensive way of replicating the effects of EPO), better training techniques, better nutrition , facilities etc. also are the bikes lighter now or has the 6.8kg limit been in place for a long time?
Bronstein said:willbick said:When comparing recent climbing rates to those of the EPO days people seem to assume it is impossible for a 'clean' rider to match the EPO times, but surely there has been gains in other ways in recent years. E.g. Prolonged altitude training camps (which is basically a legal expensive way of replicating the effects of EPO), better training techniques, better nutrition , facilities etc. also are the bikes lighter now or has the 6.8kg limit been in place for a long time?
![]()
Math model (Energy Equation).SeriousSam said:How do you estimate it?
What range of outcomes do you get?Escarabajo said:I used my own in order to observe the range of possible outcomes.