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Power Data Estimates for the climbing stages

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Nilsson said:
Pretty decent numbers. Deignan averaged 4.9 W/kg for 1 hour and 40 minutes, and did 5.1 W/kg in the last 8 km (is 28 minutes). Gesink rode that last part 3.15 min. faster and therefore should be around 5.8/5.9 W/kg...


Curious points for you. deignan final 7.35km, 5.1 W/kg, time 26:50.
Year before Horner final 8.75km, 5.5W/kg, time 23:35. Ummm...that is 13.6% further, 13% less time, which is 26% with only a 8% increase in power to weight. (I know loads of things could contribute to this, but that is a big discrepency.
What's at this 5.5W/kg, only leipheimer kept up with horner, however earlier on Mt Hamilton, at 5.6W/kg, for the same amount of time 30 guys did. Wierd no?
Just quietly did Horner re calibrate his SRM between stage 4 and 7?
 
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karlboss said:
Curious points for you. deignan final 7.35km, 5.1 W/kg, time 26:50.
Year before Horner final 8.75km, 5.5W/kg, time 23:35. Ummm...that is 13.6% further, 13% less time, which is 26% with only a 8% increase in power to weight. (I know loads of things could contribute to this, but that is a big discrepency.
What's at this 5.5W/kg, only leipheimer kept up with horner, however earlier on Mt Hamilton, at 5.6W/kg, for the same amount of time 30 guys did. Wierd no?
Just quietly did Horner re calibrate his SRM between stage 4 and 7?

I do not have Horner's data on Mount Baldy, so I should have a look at that. What I can remember, though, is his effort on Sierra Road: 6.68 W/kg, very impressive...
 
Hesjedal up Pampeago in 24 minutes 58 seconds (my timing, and RAI on twitter gave same time). RAI made it VAM of 1810 (implying they think the last climb is 753m of ascent) - though the profile says 765 m. Either way his W/kg is somewhere around 6.5.
 
Skibby the bush kangaroo said:
Hesjedal up Pampeago in 24 minutes 58 seconds (my timing, and RAI on twitter gave same time). RAI made it VAM of 1810 (implying they think the last climb is 753m of ascent) - though the profile says 765 m. Either way his W/kg is somewhere around 6.5.

That isn't far off Contador on Verbier? Probably says a lot about the lack of speed on today's stage, but a great effort by Hesjedal nonetheless.
 
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Skibby the bush kangaroo said:
Hesjedal up Pampeago in 24 minutes 58 seconds (my timing, and RAI on twitter gave same time). RAI made it VAM of 1810 (implying they think the last climb is 753m of ascent) - though the profile says 765 m. Either way his W/kg is somewhere around 6.5.

Anyone know Pantani or Gotti's time up the same climb?
 
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jens_attacks said:
that was brilliant racing finally

ryder deserves this giro,he looks like alex zulle a lot to me,super engine.i said from the beginning that he looks like a proper contender for the win
today he humiliate them all,tomorrow i think it will be the same.chapeau hesjedal!

for the statistics fans(got to verify the today's one though):

Alpe di Pampeago da Tesero
2012:7,7 km@9,9%---24:56---average speed 18.53 km/h(Ryder Hesjedal)-stage 19 Giro d'Italia-198 km-dislivello 5100 m-a.s.=31.27 km-h
2008:7,7 km@9,9%---26:25---average speed (Emanuelle Sella)-stage 14 Giro d'Italia-195 km-dislivello 4300 m-a.s.=34.69 km/h
25:16---average speed 18.28 km/h(Denis Menchov)
2003:around 24 :16(Gilberto Simoni)-stage 14 Giro d'Italia-162 km-dislivello 3600 m-a.s.=33.90 km/h
1999:7,7 km@9,9%---24:07---average speed 19.16 km/h(Marco Pantani)-stage 19 Giro d'Italia-166 km-dislivello 3700 m-a.s.=31.80 km/h
1998:7,7 km@9,9%---24:13---average speed 19.08 km/h(Pavel Tonkov)-stage 18 Giro d'Italia-115 km-dislivello -a.s.=31.81 km/h


brutal performance,the stage was a killer.and when you think what will wait the riders tomorrow...


Credits to Jens_attacks :)
 
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Parrulo said:
so hesjedal only about 2 and a half minutes or so faster then 08 contador :eek:

1,5 minutes faster than Sella from the 180 km break.
20 seconds faster than Menchov from the main group of favorites..
 
Havetts said:
1,5 minutes faster than Sella from the 180 km break.
20 seconds faster than Menchov from the main group of favorites..

ups was reading menchov's time as the 26:25 which are sellas. still it was 08 and hesjedal has never shown to be even close in the mountains to menchov and contador.

this is a massive leap in performance by him.
 
Parrulo said:
ups was reading menchov's time as the 26:25 which are sellas. still it was 08 and hesjedal has never shown to be even close in the mountains to menchov and contador.

this is a massive leap in performance by him.

Alberto was really bad in 2008 so it doesn't mean anything that Hesjedal is 20s faster. I'm sure that if Alberto would race it right now he would ride it much faster than Hesjedal.
 
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Super strong tailwind on the final climb today.

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Skibby the bush kangaroo said:
Hesjedal up Pampeago in 24 minutes 58 seconds (my timing, and RAI on twitter gave same time). RAI made it VAM of 1810 (implying they think the last climb is 753m of ascent) - though the profile says 765 m. Either way his W/kg is somewhere around 6.5.

Race Radio said:
Super strong tailwind on the final climb today.

Either that or all the contenders improved massively out of nowhere in the 3rd week of a GT. RH isn't the only one with a freakish VAM compared to previous MTF's.
 
Skibby the bush kangaroo said:
Stelvio last 20km, by my reckoning ~1476 m of climbing:

De Gendt in 63'04 => VAM = 1404
Rodriguez in 62'42 => VAM = 1412

That's 1980s speeds.

31.54 km/h on a 218 km stage with 6000 m of climbing it's something unheard though.everyone was cooked
i guess next year we'll be back at these sort of stages:

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too much climbing scares the powermeters.they won't risk anything.but you know,the watts are there and big time.
 
Skibby the bush kangaroo said:
Stelvio last 20km, by my reckoning ~1476 m of climbing:

De Gendt in 63'04 => VAM = 1404
Rodriguez in 62'42 => VAM = 1412

That's 1980s speeds.

By riders who are nowhere near the same talent level...

Ryder? Are you kidding me? He just woke up one day, ate a few rice cakes, and discovered a new level of climbing ability.
 

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