Pozzato and CONTI

[Benotti69]

Pozzato is a funny guy.
Of all the countries in the world, he chooses Kenya to stay in shape.
Too bad they didn't ask him if he knows Kisorio.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pozzato-i-never-hid-anything



Kenyan runner Kisorio admits to country-wide doping, doping doctors and EPO sales points:
http://olympia.ard.de/london2012/videos/olympia2205.html

He has gone there to do a 'Froome'

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Let's just hope he didn't catch the bacteria, that would ruin his BP hey.

 

[DirtyWorks]

He even used the "never tested positive" line.

 

[the big ring]

He even used the "never tested positive" line.

Um, no. No, he didn't. Assuming the translation is true, he said, according to CN:

I’ve done lots of controls and never been suspended. I’m not even suspended now, nor am I under investigation. My biological passport could be an example for many. I told CONI everything, I was transparent. I could have denied everything and gone to the Games

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pozzato-i-never-hid-anything

The logic of "I have done lots of A and never been B'd" does not preclude the possibility of C (testing positive), just look at Lance Armstrong.

From now on, riders need to clarify who did the test(s), so we can go check their website if WADA-led, or ignore it entirely if UCI-led.

 

[gustienordic]

Pozzato is a funny guy.
Of all the countries in the world, he chooses Kenya to stay in shape.
Too bad they didn't ask him if he knows Kisorio.

Please be a little more obvious in your doping man!

 

[sniper]

Pozzato gets three months and 10.000 euro fine.
http://www.handelsblatt.com/radspor...errari-radprofi-pozzato-gesperrt/7120918.html
Not sure why only 3 months, as I believe (but am not sure) the prosecutor asked for 6 months.

 

[Benotti69]

Pozzato gets three months and 10.000 euro fine.
http://www.handelsblatt.com/radspor...errari-radprofi-pozzato-gesperrt/7120918.html
Not sure why only 3 months, as I believe (but am not sure) the prosecutor asked for 6 months.

It seems Ferarri's name was never put onto the official list of banned doctors.

Good chance Pozzato can go to CAS and win.

 

[will10]

Well this was a real joke of a case.

Would be very little point in Pozzato going to CAS as his ban ends in a week!

 

[Willy_Voet]

I thought the finding/sentence was somewhat pragmatic. He did not test positive, nor did he run afoul of the Biopassport. By giving a sentence that is about to expire, he essentially has to accept his "guilt". He could spend the money to appeal, but it would be a waste.

 

[Benotti69]

Well this was a real joke of a case.

Would be very little point in Pozzato going to CAS as his ban ends in a week!

Yeah it is a joke. He will reduce his cost(lawyer fee as opposed to paying 10K) and clear his name, not that it will mean anything in Italy.

But at the least it is proof that Pozzatto is a doper and a crap one at that if he cant do much on a Ferarri program. If i was him i'd ask Ferarri for a refund.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Does this now mean that Pozzato gains no WT points for 2 years?

 

[ansimi]

Would one of these 3-month wrist slaps still mean a life ban for a rider with a previous ban like Scarponi? I think his hearing is very soon but I can't find it?

 

[sniper]

Does this now mean that Pozzato gains no WT points for 2 years?

Would one of these 3-month wrist slaps still mean a life ban for a rider with a previous ban like Scarponi? I think his hearing is very soon but I can't find it?

good questions. Related: will this go into the books as Pozzato's first doping offence?

 

[luckyboy]

What the **** is this ****?
****ing three months, jesus christ

Di Luca was suspended for 3 months in Oil For Drugs and obviously his CERA ban wasn't lifetime, so this won't count.

 

[Big Doopie]

"what a farce"

indeed.

he should be banned for life.

cycling is truly not changing. every indication is that there is absolutely no incentive not to cheat. pozzato's comment. the fact that using ferrari gets only a slap on the wrist. clentadope's cynical statement that he has won 7 gts. and phat pat's call for amnesty because armstrong might lose all his fraudulent gains.

and talansky thinks we owe it to them to believe they are clean...!?

seriously?

this sport is such a beautiful sport. and yet the pro scene absolutely repulses me. no result can be believed. none.

 

[Peccio89]

Happy that we will see Pippo again very soon, however they ruined the second part of his season with absolutely no reason.
It's incredible how they're tryng to strip every basic right from cyclist.

 

[rhubroma]

I'm rather surprised at such leniency, on Coni's part. Of all the national federations they seemed to want to pursue their riders with the most vigor.

Is it that Pozzato has a special status? Is the Pope backing him? (He recently went on a retreat with a Catholic priest, a friend, to “find peace with himself.”) Monti?

It just doesn't make sense.

 

[frenchfry]

Happy that we will see Pippo again very soon, however they ruined the second part of his season with absolutely no reason.
It's incredible how they're tryng to strip every basic right from cyclist.

Do you love all dopers or only Pozzato?

Give me a break with the doper's rights crap. They dope, they get caught. Ferrari = doping, this is a proven fact.

 

[Ingenerius]

Happy that we will see Pippo again very soon, however they ruined the second part of his season with absolutely no reason.
It's incredible how they're tryng to strip every basic right from cyclist.

I'm also happy to see him again soon, but not for the same reasons. Its just that he's my favourite doper, so while all the other dirty guys are riding I like to see him too.

I'm all for banning people even though there are still dirty riders left in the peloton of course, but hey, just a fanboy in this case.

 

[silverrocket]

I'm also happy to see him again soon, but not for the same reasons. Its just that he's my favourite doper, so while all the other dirty guys are riding I like to see him too.

I'm all for banning people even though there are still dirty riders left in the peloton of course, but hey, just a fanboy in this case.

I like really honest posts like this one admitting to being a Pozzato fanboy because he is their favourite doper. Much to my chagrin, all of my own favourite riders have been/are dopers, dating back to when I started following a young Marco Pantani. Sigh...

 

[Dr. Maserati]

So Polishs ban is longer than Pippos?

Seems about right

 

[Racelap]

The only farce is you, Pozz.

 

[Peccio89]

Do you love all dopers or only Pozzato?

Give me a break with the doper's rights crap. They dope, they get caught. Ferrari = doping, this is a proven fact.

Coni coort only knew that he recieved training data from Ferrari, how is that an evidence of doping? You know that in a democratic society there is the need of having evidence in order to condemn people?
Nobody caught him doping, they were just exchanging training data according to phone records that the judges had.

Remember that cyclist are first of all people with constitutional right, but it seems that most of you guys on this forum forget that.

Oh and for those of you that say italian doping coort are lenient, in any other country in this world he would have raced the olympics.

 

[Racelap]

Coni coort only knew that he recieved training data from Ferrari, how is that an evidence of doping? You know that in a democratic society there is the need of having evidence in order to condemn people?
Nobody caught him doping, they were just exchanging training data according to phone records that the judges had.

Remember that cyclist are first of all people with constitutional right, but it seems that most of you guys on this forum forget that.

Oh and for those of you that say italian doping coort are lenient, in any other country in this world he would have raced the olympics.

You must be joking.

Ferrari's "training data" is built around extending a rider's performance envelope via doping. That's what he does, that's all he does.

 

[the big ring]

Ferrari works on % of earning yeah? I didn't think Pozzato's earnings would have been enough to warrant an exclusivity deal.

So we have Pozzato with Ferrari from 2005 to 2009.

This would seem to back up the "exclusivity" arrangement Lance had with Ferrari. Lance retired the day after the Tour in 2005, leaving the door open for someone(s) else to use Ferrari's services from then.

Unless we have some statue of limitations here and CONI can't talk about 2004 (?).