Presidential Tour Of Turkey 16 - 21 April 2019

[KZD]

Important for Ewan to win again.

 

[wirral]

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Important for Ewan to win again.

Ewan only wins in Moslem countries now.

 

[Robert5091]

It seemed like the Manzana guy in front of Remco crashed and Remco rode into him as he was right behind him.

Edit - see Lorenzo Fortunato Lorenzo of Neri Sottoli-SelleI got a 20 second penalty - not sure why. Would have thought De Rossi would have got some punishment for riding after the moto and knocking the whiteboard out of the guy's hands.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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Evenepoel crashed in the final 2k. Is there a 3k rule?

I think so. There was two days ago, and there was a steeper uphill finish there.

Yup, got the same time as first group.

He seems very prone to crashes. Even if its bad luck it has happened in every race he has been in now? Cant surely be just bad luck at this point. Need to improve bike handling and get more experience riding in a peloton, which you can only get from racing I guess. Hopefully he will not suffer a serious crash and injure himself bad.

Didn't crash in San Juan, Nokere or Handzame. Maybe you're confusing him with van der Poel, lol

Actually, come to think of it, both crashed twice in their past 10 race days, once by their own fault, once caused by someone else.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Important for Ewan to win again.

Ewan only wins in Moslem countries now.

Turkey is a secular state.

 

[tobydawq]

I thought Turkey was a warm country. Tomorrow's stage will be held in continuous rain and temperatures of just 7 degrees at sea level. Could there even be snow on the mountain then?

 

[Tim Booth]

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I thought Turkey was a warm country. Tomorrow's stage will be held in continuous rain and temperatures of just 7 degrees at sea level. Could there even be snow on the mountain then?

there is snow. final climb might even be cancelled

 

[Lequack]

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I thought Turkey was a warm country. Tomorrow's stage will be held in continuous rain and temperatures of just 7 degrees at sea level. Could there even be snow on the mountain then?

there is snow. final climb might even be cancelled

Well that would make for the worst WT race ever probably.

 

[tobydawq]

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I thought Turkey was a warm country. Tomorrow's stage will be held in continuous rain and temperatures of just 7 degrees at sea level. Could there even be snow on the mountain then?

there is snow. final climb might even be cancelled

Why on earth would it be cancelled, when they don't have to descend it?

 

[Robert5091]

Weather forecast is not promising for tomorrow - rain and cold, so let's hope the stage is not shortened.

 

[Mayomaniac]

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I thought Turkey was a warm country. Tomorrow's stage will be held in continuous rain and temperatures of just 7 degrees at sea level. Could there even be snow on the mountain then?

there is snow. final climb might even be cancelled

Why on earth would it be cancelled, when they don't have to descend it?

At least Vegni isn't involved, so there is some hope.
I expect some Velon clowns to complain about it and to talk bs about riders safety.
DQ isn't high up on the gc atm, so Patrick won't complain if they race it.
For the record, i totally understand that a snowy descent and maybe even some ice on the road is too dangerous, but if it's just riding uphill it's not a problem, some winter gloves can be nice, but it's not a big deal.

 

[Robert5091]

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I thought Turkey was a warm country. Tomorrow's stage will be held in continuous rain and temperatures of just 7 degrees at sea level. Could there even be snow on the mountain then?

there is snow. final climb might even be cancelled

Why on earth would it be cancelled, when they don't have to descend it?

UCI's Extreme Weather Protocol might be discussed -
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-so...xtreme-weather-protocol.pdf?sfvrsn=244a2706_8

A working group made up of representatives from the UCI -notably commissaires -, riders (CPA), teams (AIGCP) and organisers (AIOCC) agreed on the principles of an action plan in the event of extreme weather conditions. The group considers the safety andthe health of riders as an absolute priority.
The protocol involves notably the compulsory convening of a meeting between the stakeholders (organisation including race doctor and chief of security, riders, teams, President of the Commissaires Panel,) when extreme weather conditions are anticipated prior to the start of a stage. This meeting can be convened at the request of any one of the named representatives.
The meeting shall be held in a suitable environment and in a formal manner; an executive summary of the meeting shall be drawn up by the President of the Commissaires’ Panel and remitted to the UCI along with its race report.

The extreme weather conditions that could lead to this meeting include:
1. Freezing rain
2. Snow accumulation on the road
3. Strong winds
4. Extreme temperatures
5. Poor visibility
6. Air pollution

Would not be good PR for lots of riders to quit or get ill.

 

[wirral]

It's the Ster ZLM Turkey Toer GP President van Erdogan. Sam Bennett's first GC title.

 

[Forever The Best]

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Important for Ewan to win again.

Ewan only wins in Moslem countries now.

Turkey is a secular state.

This.

 

[Mayomaniac]

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Important for Ewan to win again.

Ewan only wins in Moslem countries now.

Turkey is a secular state.

This.

Yes, one could argue that it has become less secular durning the last few years. You could say that he only wins in countries that have a muslim majority.

 

[Forever The Best]

As someone who lives in this country, sadly I agree Mayo.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I hope that they won't cancel the MTF because of snowfall.
Speaking of the final climb, there's another side of the climb that is even harder, almost Zoncolan territory:
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps...SEpbQcCJV_-0p1WePdxRW-waVYmolK47A-uId7MVU7xgg

 

[Tim Booth]

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Weather forecast is not promising for tomorrow - rain and cold, so let's hope the stage is not shortened.

pictures from the top of the climb
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jeffrey_Fierens/status/1119292863630774275
more snow forecast

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Not looking good.

 

[Robert5091]

This is the planned stage - weather permitting -

Saturday's stage 5 from Bursa to Kartepe 164.1 km start 11.50 Turkish time (10.50 CET)

TV from 14.00 CET

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Kartepe climb

 

[Robert5091]

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I hope that they won't cancel the MTF because of snowfall.
Speaking of the final climb, there's another side of the climb that is even harder, almost Zoncolan territory:
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps...SEpbQcCJV_-0p1WePdxRW-waVYmolK47A-uId7MVU7xgg

The last kms are the planned climb for Saturday - it's the first 12 km that are tough, then it levels off to the finish.

 

[Tim Booth]

Next snow in Kartepe:  6.0cm on Sat 20th. The snow forecast for Kartepe is: A light covering of new snow, mostly falling on Sat afternoon.

 

[Tim Booth]

The uphill finish to Kartepe today has been cut by 4km due to snowy conditions at the top, so the final climb will be 12km long. #TUR2019

 

[ghlambert]

The uphill finish to Kartepe today has been cut by 4km due to snowy conditions at the top, so the final climb will be 12km long. #TUR2019

They've cut out the flat part of the climb? Remco will be happy with that.

 

[Robert5091]

https://twitter.com/tourofturkeyTUR/status/1119498152544022528

The uphill finish to Kartepe today has been cut by 4km due to snowy conditions at the top, following the weather protocol with Brian Holm and Eros Capecchi representing the teams and riders respectively, so the final climb will be 12km long

The last 4 km were the easy bit of the climb so it's going to be super tough.