Presidential Tour of Turkey (2.HC) April 22-29

[rxgqgxnyfz]

OMG...

 

[El Pistolero]

OMG...

Who's that?

 

[El Pistolero]

they weren't even doing that bad in the big classics either btw. ofcourse no winner, but top 10 in nearly every classic. Which is about the maximum you can do with this group

That's the problem though, ain't it? Sometimes you just need to sign an experienced foreign rider who's capable of winning these races. The Dutch young talents would only learn from it and it would also take the pressure away. Most of them are still only between 24-27 years old.

 

[theyoungest]

That's why they signed Matti Breschel for the classics and Luis Leon for stage races... problem is neither of them has really taken the weight off the young Dutchies' shoulders.

Nice win for Bos, I haven't seen anything but apparently even their train sort of worked. That's not too bad.

 

[Fetisoff]

Who's that?

Me confused

This is not from Tour of Turkey for sure. Astana are numbers 21-30

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

That's why they signed Matti Breschel for the classics and Luis Leon for stage races... problem is neither of them has really taken the weight off the young Dutchies' shoulders.

Nice win for Bos, I haven't seen anything but apparently even their train sort of worked. That's not too bad.

they were "lucky" with the crash. many were out of contention after that and made it more regular

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

Yeah someone pulled an old photo in chat window on astanafans, then i realised my mistake and deleted my post.

 

[El Pistolero]

A win is a win. People who were at the front of the peloton probably avoided the crash.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Nice win for Bos, I haven't seen anything but apparently even their train sort of worked. That's not too bad.

Yes it did. Worked well, in fact.

they were "lucky" with the crash. many were out of contention after that and made it more regular

No they weren't. See above.
Pan flat sprints? You? seriously......

A win is a win. People who were at the front of the peloton probably avoided the crash.

Yes, they did, because of a good train.

There was a pinch point, going slightly to the rider's left.
Rabo and GreenEdge stringing out the front.

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

Crap day for SpiderTech today.

Lacombe is out after suffering a small fracture of his C7 vertebra and a broken nose in the big crash at the end of todays stage. Also, Boivin probably won't start tomorrow after injuring his wrist in an earlier crash.

http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews.php?id=23856

 

[Bala Verde]

Yes it did. Worked well, in fact.


No they weren't. See above.
Pan flat sprints? You? seriously......



Yes, they did, because of a good train.

There was a pinch point, going slightly to the rider's left.
Rabo and GreenEdge stringing out the front.

http://www.steephill.tv/players/720...sh&dashboard=tour-of-turkey&id=xqanl5&yr=2012

You think the train worked well? I just saw the last 1-1.5k and to me it seemed their last man came up way too fast, meaning at 500m he had to let up. Bos then had to rely on the green edge launch for Goss to take him to the finish, and, in a last ditch attempt, he managed to (just?) pip him at the line. He changed trains, otherwise he would have had his face in the wind.

I am not saying it was bad, but the timing seemed to be off, which almost cost him the win. Perhaps I have been too spoiled with the cavendish trains though

 

[classicomano]

Its still better than their previous failtrain attemps wich are set up with 5k to go and burn up a kilometer later, I see improvement!

 

[greenedge]

Congrats to Bos. Good to see Goss getting a good lead out too.

 

[theyoungest]

http://www.steephill.tv/players/720...sh&dashboard=tour-of-turkey&id=xqanl5&yr=2012

You think the train worked well? I just saw the last 1-1.5k and to me it seemed their last man came up way too fast, meaning at 500m he had to let up. Bos then had to rely on the green edge launch for Goss to take him to the finish, and, in a last ditch attempt, he managed to (just?) pip him at the line. He changed trains, otherwise he would have had his face in the wind.

I am not saying it was bad, but the timing seemed to be off, which almost cost him the win. Perhaps I have been too spoiled with the cavendish trains though

Trains that take their sprinter all the way to the line hardly exist anymore. Team Cav don't have it dialed in yet either. At least Bos was in the position to follow the Greenedge guys.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

they weren't even doing that bad in the big classics either btw. ofcourse no winner, but top 10 in nearly every classic. Which is about the maximum you can do with this group

LOL. you have to be kidding right

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

no i'm not, top 10 in each one

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

no i'm not, top 10 in each one

yeah and you call that great? you sound like a belgian trying to talk right what is wrong.

 

[theyoungest]

yeah and you call that great? you sound like a belgian trying to talk right what is wrong.

Since you pronounced Breschel's career to be over already, I say top-10 in Flanders is pretty good for a retiree. But maybe you expected something more?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I never said great did I? Maybe you should try and reread my post then come back

No idea why 'not that bad' translates to 'great' in your book

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Yes it did. Worked well, in fact.


No they weren't. See above.
Pan flat sprints? You? seriously......



Yes, they did, because of a good train.

There was a pinch point, going slightly to the rider's left.
Rabo and GreenEdge stringing out the front.

lol. what substance is in your eyes? even with the crash they mistimed their train and bos was lucky to sit in front when greenedge went

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Since you pronounced Breschel's career to be over already, I say top-10 in Flanders is pretty good for a retiree. But maybe you expected something more?

breschel proves my point. the guy because of his injurys lacks the real power he had. it's like with fothen and weneing happened. their glory days are gone.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I never said great did I? Maybe you should try and reread my post then come back

No idea why 'not that bad' translates to 'great' in your book

my bad. let me refrase then

you call that not bad? it's very bad. their worst springcampaign ever I think. freire also outperformed them almost everywhere

 

[theyoungest]

my bad. let me refrase then

you call that not bad? it's very bad. their worst springcampaign ever I think. freire also outperformed them almost everywhere

And which riders did you expect more from?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I didn't expect anyone better. that';s not teh point. I knew they were going to suck. however rabo expected more and should expect more with a 12.5 million euro budget. they will suck in the tour too and I think everyone can see that coming too

 

[TeoSheva]

back on topic: when the stage will start? or has it started yet?