Pulling a Wiggins

[jens_attacks]

"Take Bradley Wiggins for example, and his claim that he thought Lance Armstrong was clean up until the reasoned decision. I do have a little sympathy for him. While he's not particularly bright or articulate, if you read between his curse words it's clear that he has insecurities resulting from the fact that despite all the measures he took to win the Tour he wasn't even the strongest rider."

I think the phrase 'all the measures he took' says it all really.

for me one of the most epic quotes ever lol. floyd surely one of the most intelligent bike riders in recent history , great sense of humour, great class on a bike. climbed like an angel and descended like a demon, helluva rider.i wish he was here fighting the new generation omega-sky-movistar

 

[Beech Mtn]

"Take Bradley Wiggins for example, and his claim that he thought Lance Armstrong was clean up until the reasoned decision. I do have a little sympathy for him. While he's not particularly bright or articulate, if you read between his curse words it's clear that he has insecurities resulting from the fact that despite all the measures he took to win the Tour he wasn't even the strongest rider."

I think the phrase 'all the measures he took' says it all really.

Was just coming here to post that same awesome quote. Wigans should've never tried to call out Landis. Dude got rid of Lance, FFS - it won't be no trouble at all to deal with the likes of Sir BMW.

 

[Digger]

For someone who gets mad each time he reads this piece, today was brilliant...landis destroyed wiggins in one paragraph. And not alone was Landis correct, but Wiggins totally deserved it. Does he think he can say what he says in this link, without someone actually defending themselves?

He is a disgrace...and cycling really got the champion it deserved with him.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-calls-for-biological-passport-data-to-be-made-public

All the other stuff that’s come on with Landis and things like that is one for the courts and whether the truth will ever come out is down to this investigation. I think time will tell with that. As it stands today, with the time I’ve raced with him – and I’ve never raced with him in his era of winning seven Tours – but in his comeback, he’s probably been the most tested athlete and never failed a drugs test.”

Landis announced his retirement from the sport earlier this week after being unable to secure a team for the last year. Wiggins, it seems, is a firm believer on letting the judicial process do its work.

“I think you have to question Landis’ credibility because he lied under oath before and the stories that you hear about him drinking and things like that and you know, [making] telephone calls to people I know, threatening them with things, you just think that the guy appears to not all be there. So when you see these kinds of claims in the press you have to question his credibility because it’s almost like it’s coming from a mad man, but at the same time maybe that’s all borne out of frustration and things.

“You just never know but you just look at the way his life has gone over the last five years and you think there’s one person who it would have been so easy to have just admitted it when it happened in 2006, come clean if he did do it and he would have been back racing in a professional team making pretty good money. It’s quite sad how his life has gone away, just dwindled away and now there’s all these claims and counter claims and it’s quite a sad story for him

 

[the sceptic]

how do skybots not see what a gigantic fraud the 2012 season was?

from the new Lemond, back to gruppetto rider again. How on earth can anyone believe that?

 

[Parker]

For someone who gets mad each time he reads this piece, today was brilliant...landis destroyed wiggins in one paragraph. And not alone was Landis correct, but Wiggins totally deserved it. Does he think he can say what he says in this link, without someone actually defending themselves?

He is a disgrace...and cycling really got the champion it deserved with him.

The disgrace is Landis.

He was an enthusiastic participant in the US Postal doping ring
He continued once he left
He stood on the Tour podium as a doped winner
He claimed his innocence for four years
He went through every legal option available
He lied under oath
He published a whole book about his innocence
He launched the 'Floyd Fairness Fund', soliciting donations from the public
He was convicted of hacking into anti-doping lab computers
An associate of his blackmailed LeMond
He still claims that he didn't take testosterone when he got caught
He says the only thing he'd change is confessing earlier

This is your 'hero'.
If Armstrong is the no.1 worst doper of all time, Landis is a candidate for no.2. Certainly top 5.

He only did the right thing when he had run out of wrong things to try.

 

[del1962]

Hopefully this quote will pull BroDeal back.

"Take Bradley Wiggins for example, and his claim that he thought Lance Armstrong was clean up until the reasoned decision. I do have a little sympathy for him. While he's not particularly bright or articulate, if you read between his curse words it's clear that he has insecurities resulting from the fact that despite all the measures he took to win the Tour he wasn't even the strongest rider.

I wonder if Wiggo will respond? Or maybe just look in the mirror?

I agree this is a big shock, I think the ASO might take away Wiggo's TDF and give it to Froome as he was the stronger rider, Wiggo relegated to second place, Landis has spoken, perhaps Floyd will persuade the IOC that Wiggo's array of Golds should be relegated to Silver too.

Good post Hog

 

[Digger]

This is your 'hero'.
If Armstrong is the no.1 worst doper of all time, Landis is a candidate for no.2. Certainly top 5.

He only did the right thing when he had run out of wrong things to try.

And your boy wiggins defended him and said he loved him...

 

[sittingbison]

...I think the ASO might take away Wiggo's TDF and give it to Froome as he was the stronger rider, Wiggo relegated to second place...

there is considerable conjecture Dodger was a stronger rider than Wiggo as well...putting out 450W at will to reel in the assualts etc...so thats a Sky royal flush on the podium, with Wiggo in bronze

 

[Digger]

I agree this is a big shock, I think the ASO might take away Wiggo's TDF and give it to Froome as he was the stronger rider, Wiggo relegated to second place, Landis has spoken, perhaps Floyd will persuade the IOC that Wiggo's array of Golds should be relegated to Silver too.

Good post Hog

Well yes I mean Wiggins was obviously the stronger rider...as froome looked behind him like he was looking at a cat 4 who was two stone overweight...saying come on, last orders in the pub are in an hour.

 

[sniper]

And your boy wiggins defended him and said he loved him...

+1
wiggins is a nobrainer

 

[del1962]

Well yes I mean Wiggins was obviously the stronger rider...as froome looked behind him like he was looking at a cat 4 who was two stone overweight...saying come on, last orders in the pub are in an hour.

Perhaps Floyd is a little confused, he obvioulsy thinks the 2nd place rider is normally given the title

 

[Race Radio]

Floyd is comedy gold.

Wiggins should not cry about what Floyd said, he has said much worse

“I think you have to question Landis’ credibility because he lied under oath before and the stories that you hear about him drinking and things like that and you know, [making] telephone calls to people I know, threatening them with things, you just think that the guy appears to not all be there. So when you see these kinds of claims in the press you have to question his credibility because it’s almost like it’s coming from a mad man, but at the same time maybe that’s all borne out of frustration and things.”

Floyd wins this on comedic value.

 

[blackcat]

Brad just gotta stfu and let Cath have the balls in the family and do the spruiking

 

[Digger]

Floyd is comedy gold.

Wiggins should not cry about what Floyd said, he has said much worse



Floyd wins this on comedic value.

For long enough you defended wiggins by saying he only plays with journos and makes a joke of it all. Something along the lines of tongue abs cheek by him.

 

[Digger]

Perhaps Floyd is a little confused, he obvioulsy thinks the 2nd place rider is normally given the title

It was a corporate decision to let wiggins beat froome....to further the brand. The best man did not win that tour. It was embarrassing to see the yellow jersey not able to hang on to his teammate.

 

[Race Radio]

For long enough you defended wiggins by saying he only plays with journos and makes a joke of it all. Something along the lines of tongue abs cheek by him.

Defended? Dude, you gotta stop inventing things. Pointing out that Wiggins is FOS and likes to fork with people is hardly defending him.....but of course you knew that.

Wiggins admits he tells reporters nonsense in order to provoke. Floyd just owned him by telling the truth.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Ha ha!

Do posters in this thread want to go back to the Lance days of boring cheating domination?

Winning a GT takes an amazing ammount out of you: many of the recent tour winners have been near the end of their careers and have used their experience to get the win. Its not surprising that's the highlight of their career, which they can't replicate (though some have tried harder than others)

Wiggins is no different from others in this regard, but if you can see cycling as more than grand tours, he has acheived an incredible ammount in his career, and its not over yet

lol. not this stupid pdm story again right? if they were doping so extremely with risking their lives then explain to me how all riders were sick except alcala? he wasn't on the programme? bull****. they had all symptoms of "food" poisoning except alcala who pretty much ate from the streets in mexico at young age and he wasn't affected.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Floyd just owned [Wiggins] by telling the truth.

Do you think Wiggo's really bothered? He's got the jersey, the knighthood, a sack load of cash and is a hero to the masses in the UK. The general view among the masses about Wiggo vs Froome in 2012 (if anyone's actually bothered) is that Wiggo would have dieselled his way to containing any losses to Froome in the mountains, smashed him in the ITTs and who cares who came second anyway?

 

[Benotti69]

This is your 'hero'.
If Armstrong is the no.1 worst doper of all time, Landis is a candidate for no.2. Certainly top 5.

He only did the right thing when he had run out of wrong things to try.

Boy do you know nothing about cycling and doping. Most anyone who threw their leg over a bike in the mid 90's doped more than Armstrong.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Do you think Wiggo's really bothered? He's got the jersey, the knighthood, a sack load of cash and is a hero to the masses in the UK. The general view among the masses about Wiggo vs Froome in 2012 (if anyone's actually bothered) is that Wiggo would have dieselled his way to containing any losses to Froome in the mountains, smashed him in the ITTs and who cares who came second anyway?

I'd think Wiggo cares considering the tantrum he threw before wussing out of last year's TdF.

Sure he got the crown for 2012, but everyone knows it was because of team orders considering what The Dawg did to everyone last year. Wiggo's expiration date came up on the podium. He's soooo yesterday's news. Everyone else found the magic formula for losing massive weight and still retaining or increasing power output, so he is back where he started: Unable to win anything of consequence. This year, everyone will look like Wiggins, only there are dozens with more actual talent. Wiggins just found the secret earlier than most others. Dumb luck that.

 

[Digger]

Defended? Dude, you gotta stop inventing things. Pointing out that Wiggins is FOS and likes to fork with people is hardly defending him.....but of course you knew that.

Wiggins admits he tells reporters nonsense in order to provoke. Floyd just owned him by telling the truth.

oh sorry, make excuses for him when everyone else was calling it was it was about his man love for lance.

Wiggins admits he tells reporters what they want to hear......anyway...millar is next...another guy you said floyd criticized before he had a go at floyd - i would like to see a quote for that one.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

For long enough you defended wiggins by saying he only plays with journos and makes a joke of it all. Something along the lines of tongue abs cheek by him.

You'd be so much more relevant if you'd just let water pass under the bridge sometimes. Dude, you've fought with just about everyone on the planet at one time or another. So have I. Just let it go man. Holding grudges isn't necessary. Disagree, have a knock-down, drag-out fight, and then just drop it. Trust me, it's easier than you think.

 

[ebandit]

pathetic

oh sorry, make excuses for him when everyone else was calling it was it was about his man love for lance.

pathetic...........like the saddest lamest 45 on repeat

Mark L

 

[Digger]

You'd be so much more relevant if you'd just let water pass under the bridge sometimes. Dude, you've fought with just about everyone on the planet at one time or another. So have I. Just let it go man. Holding grudges isn't necessary. Disagree, have a knock-down, drag-out fight, and then just drop it. Trust me, it's easier than you think.

I'm good thanks.
I take that post as a compliment.

 

[The Hitch]

Do you think Wiggo's really bothered? He's got the jersey, the knighthood, a sack load of cash and is a hero to the masses in the UK. The general view among the masses about Wiggo vs Froome in 2012 (if anyone's actually bothered) is that Wiggo would have dieselled his way to containing any losses to Froome in the mountains, smashed him in the ITTs and who cares who came second anyway?

General view?
Masses?

Based on what?
Its well established that the wiggins fans (surprise surprise, absolutely no bias here) think their original hero was stronger.
I even know some wiggins fans who believe that Froome was in no way hindered by wiggins at the 2011 Vuelta.

Some non wiggins fans may agree.

But to say its a general view?

Landis is far from on his own here. The most famous clip from that TDF was Froome dropping Wiggins like a stone and being told he had to drop back.

You think anyone who isn't extremely in love with bradley wiggins went "oh its ok wiggins is the best tter ever, he would have got it all back"?. No. People took note of that.

The Spanish press asked Contador if he thought Froome was stronger. Since when does the press ask if 2nd place was stronger. Contador said yes btw. I think that shows that people in one European country that held absolutely no stake in the discussion really did wonder whether the stronger guy won.

In Italy in the build up to the Giro people said wiggins would struggle to beat Nibali (who he absolutely crushed in the Tour), because Froome wasn't there.

And that's not my view btw. My view is that we don't know, and Wiggins may well have still held on. I do not underestimate how strong wiggins was in 2012, he was unreal.

But especially after Wiggins threw a hissy fit about Froome riding away, and especially after Froome destroyed the competition at the 2013 TDF in a manner not seen in a long time, a lot of people are convinced Froome was the stronger rider.

To try and pass off this wiggins fanboyism as a "general view of the masses", come on.