Pulling a Wiggins

[blackcat]

Wiggo should move to Belkin, then pulling a Wiggins could be a Dutch Runner
dutch-runner
occurs while a male is holding is penis and another person, either male or female, moves his fore-arm in an up and down motion as to cause "second hand masturbation", however if a male is giving another male a dutch runner neither male is gay unless they are engaging in a double-dutch-runner
Shelly walked in on Tom giving Neil a dutch-runner.

 

[thehog]

He certainly can't be on any weight loss regime, maybe at odds with the whole system. I cant imagine him singing the Sky anthem at six every morning either.

I would agree. He does appear to be a renegade refusing the full program.

But he still maintains a contract. Smart kid. Get him to Garmin.

 

[CycloAndy]

I would agree. He does appear to be a renegade refusing the full program.

Is your opinion that doping heavily is far worse, morally speaking, than only doping moderately?

 

[thehog]

Is your opinion that doping heavily is far worse, morally speaking, than only doping moderately?

My opinion is that the sport is morally corrupt and the problems exists more with the environment than how much an individual rider may dope.

 

[blackcat]

This makes no sense as an explanation for anything really. Surely since he now does earn 10 times what he did, then by definition, he always had the potential to do so?

And also, given the economic incentives of being a top GC rider were just as tempting 10 years ago as they are now, the interesting question you raise is why was he content to concentrate on the track/Olympic cycle as a younger rider, before transforming into a GC guy?

Yeah you can think that the transformation in his climbing was enabled by drug induced weight loss, fine, but that's an explanation of 'how' he transformed. It doesn't answer 'why' he transformed at that particular time, and neither does pointing to 'market incentives' either, because those incentives didn't just suddenly appear in 2009, they'd been there the entire length of his career.

could not have beaten the other dopers or a top of his game Contador.

And Brailsford relied upon Amaury Sports to game the route for them.

Heck, he could not even beat Froome if it was gonna be a mano a mano Tour. The money incentive was always there, he beat up on the small fry on the boards, cherry pickings. He just did not quite have his dope regime dialled in to win the Tour. But he did not suddenly become the overnight doper. It just required a national GB Cycling team to put all resources behind him.

But you are right wrt ceteris parabus, incentive existed previously. If he had not been the face of GB Cycling, his performance on the track would not have been sufficient to demand a new contract at FDJ CA Cofidis and HR. If he was a Kiwi, or a Canuck, he would have been dumped on the scrapheap, and perhaps picked up a few 6 days rides between the olympiad.

 

[CycloAndy]

My opinion is that the sport is morally corrupt and the problems exists more with the environment than how much an individual rider may dope.

My thoughts exactly (maybe no more than other sports however) but why then do you pick on certain teams/riders more than others?

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Wiggo should move to Belkin, then pulling a Wiggins could be a Dutch Runner
dutch-runner
occurs while a male is holding is penis and another person, either male or female, moves his fore-arm in an up and down motion as to cause "second hand masturbation", however if a male is giving another male a dutch runner neither male is gay unless they are engaging in a double-dutch-runner
Shelly walked in on Tom giving Neil a dutch-runner.

Hmmm... I'm off to pull my Wiggins...

 

[Benotti69]

My thoughts exactly (maybe no more than other sports however) but why then do you pick on certain teams/riders more than others?

You may or may not have noticed that the top riders get the most flak, the top teams get the most flak, but the teams that scream about being clean and dominate a sport where the known culture is to dope to win (especially in GTs) well then the flak is at its densest.

But should you have a few spare months to search the clinic, you will find every top team, athlete and doctor etc etc discussed in here.

That Sky fans try and defend UKPostal in a similar manner to Armstrong fans means that threads related to Sky and Sky riders garner the most posts.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Who can pull a wiggin out of their behind?

 

[sniper]

“[Recently elected president] Brian Cookson is in now, and he wants a complete overhaul of the whole thing. And 99.9 per cent of the riders are on board, understand and are riding clean.

mmkaaaay...
Read more at http://talksport.com/cycling/sir-br...lenging-doping-hypocrites#VcyJjtpSumr8RhLr.99

 

[SaxonUK]

No whitewashing, please. Those planets apparently aligned for a whole year, and for all the ITT kilometers, the only rider who managed to drop Wiggins in the mountains was his teammate and domestique Froome.

Another reason why he probably doesn't want to go to any more Gts. SKY have Froome now who is a lot stronger than Wiggins was even in his winning tour and who will be Sky's golden goose for years to come... unless he gets caught doping.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 9h
“I’d just like to challenge the people asking those questions a little more." says Wiggins, who refused to talk to me in Spain last month.

Simone Warner ‏@SimoneWarner 8h
Heh @dnlbenson saying Wiggins refused interview Mallorca last month. BW interviewed by CN Mallorca last month http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNgsjLBp7JY …

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 8h
@SimoneWarner what I said was that he refused to talk to me. Which is true. Said I wasn't supportive.

 

[blackcat]

Who can pull a wiggin out of their behind?

one wigan in the hand is worth two in the bush

 

[sniper]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 9h
“I’d just like to challenge the people asking those questions a little more." says Wiggins, who refused to talk to me in Spain last month.

Simone Warner ‏@SimoneWarner 8h
Heh @dnlbenson saying Wiggins refused interview Mallorca last month. BW interviewed by CN Mallorca last month http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNgsjLBp7JY …

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 8h
@SimoneWarner what I said was that he refused to talk to me. Which is true. Said I wasn't supportive.

This is not something we should step over easily. Ffs. Wiggins pulling another one from ghe lance/usps handbook of fraud: ignore and/or discredit those who are not supportive.
old school omerta.

 

[bobbins]

This is not something we should step over easily. Ffs. Wiggins pulling another one from ghe lance/usps handbook of fraud: ignore and/or discredit those who are not supportive.
old school omerta.

If, that this is a big and most likely none existent if, they are running a clean team, they should be ashamed at Wiggins comments and the way Dave B speaks to the press about doping.

Arrogant, naive or treating the fans like fools. Or all three.

 

[badboygolf16v]

[Recently elected president] Brian Cookson is in now, and he wants a complete overhaul of the whole thing. And 99.9 per cent of the riders are on board, understand and are riding clean.

0.01 per cent are on beard.

 

[Benotti69]

History repeats itself......................

 

[pastronef]

if you’re a professional cyclist, and want to be credible, you need to skip the every other month visit to Tenerife



http://stevetilford.com/2012/05/02/...de-france-winner-how-about-skipping-tenerife/

 

[del1962]

if you’re a professional cyclist, and want to be credible, you need to skip the every other month visit to Tenerife



http://stevetilford.com/2012/05/02/...de-france-winner-how-about-skipping-tenerife/

If you think that training at altitude is going to help you improve your fittness then why skip a trip to one of the best plcaes to do that within reach of europe, Tilford has made a pretty dumb staement here

 

[Benotti69]

If you think that training at altitude is going to help you improve your fittness then why skip a trip to one of the best plcaes to do that within reach of europe, Tilford has made a pretty dumb staement here

Yeah 'training' on Tenerife really 'improves' performance. Say it enough along with "never tested positive" and Wiggins might get to sell some nice coloured bracelets.

 

[Race Radio]

if you’re a professional cyclist, and want to be credible, you need to skip the every other month visit to Tenerife

More like every week. I understand Wiggo is going the Lance route these days. Training in Tenerife and flying, by private jet, back to the UK every weekend to see the family. Good to see he values his family but that jet time gets expensive

 

[Benotti69]

Anyone remember when Grupetto Wiggins got angry at dopers?

“I felt physically sick when I heard the news. My first reaction was purely selfish and related only to me. “You b****** Landis,” I thought. “You have completely ruined my own small achievement of getting around the Tour de France and being a small part of cycling history. You and guys like you are p***ing on my sport and my dreams. Why do guys like you keep cheating? How many of you are out there, taking the p*** and getting away with it? Sod you all. You are a bunch of cheating b******* and I hope one day they catch the lot of you and ban you all for life. You can keep doing it your way and I will keep doing it mine. You won’t ever change me, you sods. B******s to all of you. At least I can look myself in the mirror”.’

Amazing he had this reaction to a guy who won it once by cheating and yet a guy who won it 7 times by cheating barely registered in comparison.

 

[The Hitch]

Anyone remember when Grupetto Wiggins got angry at dopers?



Amazing he had this reaction to a guy who won it once by cheating and yet a guy who won it 7 times by cheating barely registered in comparison.

Checked velorooms recently? Apparently he still is. "I love Lance" was taken out of context. As was "Contador is innocent", "Vino should be allowed to race" "even Lance's critics have benefited from Armstrong", "Landis is a mad man trying to sell a book", "Pantani was a legend" "Tom Simpson is the greatest" "Its a shame Ivan is out of the Giro, he rides like me" etc.

All taken totally out of context. Wiggins is actually a "fervent anti doper" who probably worked with USADA to bring Lance down.

 

[ebandit]

context

Checked velorooms recently? Apparently he still is. "I love Lance" was taken out of context.

I agree.............my perspective was that when wiggo said 'I love lance' he was stating he loved how much lance had done for cycling and cyclo sport

some here seem to like the idea of wiggo's 'man crush'....wink...wink

it was never wiggo's duty to see justice served on lance

Mark L

 

[Digger]

Wiggins is a disgrace...Bikeradar and the crew are no better.