Pulling a Wiggins

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Aug 13, 2009
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Wallace and Gromit said:
Do you think Wiggo's really bothered? He's got the jersey, the knighthood, a sack load of cash and is a hero to the masses in the UK. The general view among the masses about Wiggo vs Froome in 2012 (if anyone's actually bothered) is that Wiggo would have dieselled his way to containing any losses to Froome in the mountains, smashed him in the ITTs and who cares who came second anyway?

Wiggins certainly wins the "Who have more stuff" Contest but the $hit talking contest goes to Floyd
 
I remember one little nugget from Walsh which was unreal. Floyd said he wasn't long in USP before he was under no doubt whatsoever about lance.
Walsh said he should have had no doubt at all before this.
I said wiggins was told about lance whilst with Garmin which makes him defending lance all the worse. His reply was not necessarily.
 
ebandit said:
pathetic...........like the saddest lamest 45 on repeat

Mark L

I'm not imagining things but there's a fallibility with Wiggins. He's not comfortable in his own skin. It's very easy to tell by the way he conducts himself.

If you compare the way Floyd rode in terms or tactics and performance to Wiggins, Landis is far superior. Given that Floyd won a Tour with virtually no team and Wiggins had to create a scenario of a flat course and team time trialling around the loop with 8 team members.

And now proven again with a short paragraph, just a few words, he put Wiggins in a box.

It was a fairly impressive knock out punch if you ask me. Made Wiggins look completely stupid.
 
thehog said:
I'm not imagining things but there's a fallibility with Wiggins. He's not comfortable in his own skin. It's very easy to tell by the way he conducts himself.

If you compare the way Floyd rode in terms or tactics and performance to Wiggins, Landis is far superior. Given that Floyd won a Tour with virtually no team and Wiggins had to create a scenario of a flat course and team time trialling around the course with 8 team members.

And now proven again with a short paragraph, just a few words, he put Wiggins in a box.

It was a fairly impressive knock out punch if you ask me. Made Wiggins look completely stupid.

Which Tour did Floyd win?
 
May 27, 2012
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Digger said:
I'm good thanks.
I take that post as a compliment.

It wasn't really meant as positive or negative. I just made an observation. If you need to continue to hold grudges, you are among good company as that is the default human reaction. I figured I'd offer an olive branch. Smack it away if you must. That isn't a reflection on me.
 
Jul 17, 2012
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The Hitch said:
General view?
Masses?

Based on what?
Its well established that the wiggins fans (surprise surprise, absolutely no bias here) think their original hero was stronger.
I even know some wiggins fans who believe that Froome was in no way hindered by wiggins at the 2011 Vuelta.

Some non wiggins fans may agree.

But to say its a general view?

Landis is far from on his own here. The most famous clip from that TDF was Froome dropping Wiggins like a stone and being told he had to drop back.

You think anyone who isn't extremely in love with bradley wiggins went "oh its ok wiggins is the best tter ever, he would have got it all back"?. No. People took note of that.

The Spanish press asked Contador if he thought Froome was stronger. Since when does the press ask if 2nd place was stronger. Contador said yes btw. I think that shows that people in one European country that held absolutely no stake in the discussion really did wonder whether the stronger guy won.

In Italy in the build up to the Giro people said wiggins would struggle to beat Nibali (who he absolutely crushed in the Tour), because Froome wasn't there.

And that's not my view btw. My view is that we don't know, and Wiggins may well have still held on. I do not underestimate how strong wiggins was in 2012, he was unreal.

But especially after Wiggins threw a hissy fit about Froome riding away, and especially after Froome destroyed the competition at the 2013 TDF in a manner not seen in a long time, a lot of people are convinced Froome was the stronger rider.

To try and pass off this wiggins fanboyism as a "general view of the masses", come on.

Interesting you takes swipes at other people's bias all the while wearing your own on your sleeve. You are the least objective poster on these forums when it comes to Wiggins.
 
Digger said:
For long enough you defended wiggins by saying he only plays with journos and makes a joke of it all. Something along the lines of tongue & cheek by him.

The beauty of Landis's statement was that it wasn't comedy. Wiggins only has comedy. Landis has an edge and a well addressed meaning in what he says.

I'm sure Wiggins is at home with his Style Council records thinking up a remark about Paul Kimmidge. Or maybe he'll just get David Walsh to tweet how ready he is for the Giro :rolleyes: