Purito - Joaquim Rodriguez thread

[Afrank]

World tour winners

2013 Purito
2012 Purito
2011Someone else
2010 Purito
yes I know it was Gilbert

If only he could win the really big races (GT's, LBL's, etc.) as well as he could win the world tour.

 

[Afrank]

It was great to see Purito on the podium with that big smile after last week.

And I don't know if this has been posted yet somewhere, but I read this on biciciclismo:

"Para mí, el Giro es la más bella de las tres grandes vueltas . Siempre tengo buena forma después de las clásicas. El año pasado he rodado bien en el Giro, y creo que puedo hacerlo bien allí de nuevo. Esta semana he sentido un gran apoyo de los aficionados italianos, y creo que merecen verme tomar la salida en el Giro en 2014".

Fucking awesome _O_

Very good to hear. Rodriguez is just so much better suited to a Giro-Vuelta program. Really would like to see him finally get that long long awaited GT's win next year.

 

[Kwibus]

Very good to hear. Rodriguez is just so much better suited to a Giro-Vuelta program. Really would like to see him finally get that long long awaited GT's win next year.

He certainly deserves it looking back at the last couple of years, but I don't think he will one. I sure do hope he will though.

 

[Peter von]

I think Jrod could win Giro or Vuelta in 2014, but maybe he is too strong not to ride le Tour?

I mean if the route in the tour is good he'll ride it, he might after all be the best climber in the world, and certainly is in his own mind(not saying he's arrogant, he has to think that to be on his current level).

I really hope he'll go to Italy in may with bad intentions and then again in la Vuelta.

The thing is though he don't have the time to get the giro/vuelta victory in the bag and then being able to focus on le Tour, so if the route suits him to some moderate degree he might be tempted to go le Tour on us.

 

[Arredondo]

I think Jrod could win Giro or Vuelta in 2014, but maybe he is too strong not to ride le Tour?

I mean if the route in the tour is good he'll ride it, he might after all be the best climber in the world, and certainly is in his own mind(not saying he's arrogant, he has to think that to be on his current level).

I really hope he'll go to Italy in may with bad intentions and then again in la Vuelta.

The thing is though he don't have the time to get the giro/vuelta victory in the bag and then being able to focus on le Tour, so if the route suits him to some moderate degree he might be tempted to go le Tour on us.

Jrod is no way riding the Tour next year, because he really wants to become WC in his home country. If he rides Giro-Vuelta, he will be fresher for the worlds, comparing if you doing the Tour.

The Tour he can't win, he loses to much time in a time trial, and he's not a better climber than Froome. So Giro-Vuelta is the best option, because then he's got a chance to win at least one of them.

 

[jsem94]

Giro-Vuelta-WC triple crown for Purito next year?

 

[Arredondo]

Giro-Vuelta-WC triple crown for Purito next year?

The best option i suggest is to fully focus on the ardennes classics, particularly LBL, and after that haunting stages at the Giro (so not for a GC). After the Giro he can fully focus on trying to win the Vuelta and become WC.

 

[SafeBet]

The best option i suggest is to fully focus on the ardennes classics, particularly LBL, and after that haunting stages at the Giro (so not for a GC). After the Giro he can fully focus on trying to win the Vuelta and become WC.

Why do you think he can't win the Giro?
Comeptition won't be so stiff.

 

[willbick]

Coz his ITT isnt good enough, and TTT for that matter

 

[Netserk]

Coz his ITT isnt good enough, and TTT for that matter

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=21651

 

[Arredondo]

Why do you think he can't win the Giro?
Comeptition won't be so stiff.

I think he can win, but it will not be easy. The big thing with Jrod is that for most years, he really focused on the classics AND Giro, so he could not be at fully 100% at the classics (because then you have difficulties to be at your best in the 3rd week of the Giro). And if he decides to be in really top shape at FW and LBL, perhaps he isn't that fresh at the end of the Giro.

If he decides to chase stage wins in the Giro, he can fully go for LBL, his most beloved classic.

 

[webbie146]

Why do you think he can't win the Giro?
Comeptition won't be so stiff.

Richie Porte

 

[Arredondo]

Good interview with JRod on CN. Still very disappointed about the lost WC, that's for sure.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rodriguez-worlds-defeat-will-stay-with-me-forever

 

[jsem94]

Can you blame him?

 

[Jelantik]

Can you blame him?

No. I think he has every right. Even though he is trying to be wise about it, but he is still bitter. So, I'm not seeing he is going to ally with valverde in TDF. Good for contador then..

 

[jsem94]

I don't even think he will ride the Tour next year. After the Giro, I don't think he'll go for the Tour. The last big guys to have tried the Giro-Tour double were Evans (3rd Giro, autobus in the Tour), Basso (won the Giro, autobus in the Tour) and Contador who was 5th in the Tour after his brilliant Giro win in 2011.

 

[The Hitch]

I don't even think he will ride the Tour next year. After the Giro, I don't think he'll go for the Tour. The last big guys to have tried the Giro-Tour double were Evans (3rd Giro, autobus in the Tour), Basso (won the Giro, autobus in the Tour) and Contador who was 5th in the Tour after his brilliant Giro win in 2011.

Murito wont do Giro Tour but Giro Tour aint neccesarily that hard. Basso and Contador were in the third epoch of the Zomegnan period, those courses were insane. These Aquareone Giros are 1 day races by comparison. Froome could easily pull a double off imo.

I mean Contador 2011 wasnt even that far off. Afterall he lost 1.20 minutes in the Mont des Allesoutes screwjob,and also had a weak team for the ttt lost 30 more seconds there, and those time losses combined were greater than his eventual time deficit to Frank Schleck in 3rd. Considering that was after podiuming 9 out of 21 stages in the hardest GT since television, it certainly seems possible to me for someone of that ability to win both in the modern era.

 

[jsem94]

You make a fine point. The Giri after Zomegnan haven't been as brutal.

The Tour is probably the GT least suited to J-rod too though. He is much more suited for the Giro-Vuelta double imo.

 

[Arredondo]

No. I think he has every right. Even though he is trying to be wise about it, but he is still bitter. So, I'm not seeing he is going to ally with valverde in TDF. Good for contador then..

Why would he ride the Tour? He can't win him, and he reached his goal (namely the podium). If he decides to do the double Giro-Vuelta, he has a chance to win one of them, and will arrive in better form at the Worlds. Jrod shows that without the Tour, you can be a top rider and build a big palmares.

I hope a lot of second-rate GT riders are going to see the light to.

 

[roundabout]

You make a fine point. The Giri after Zomegnan haven't been as brutal.

The Tour is probably the GT least suited to J-rod too though. He is much more suited for the Giro-Vuelta double imo.

A Zomegnan Giro with a soft-pedalled last week (apart from an hour and a bit of TTs and last km sprints at Sestriere and Macugnaga) and a Tour which took 2 weeks to get to the big mountains. And the first Massif that was not raced hard.

So no, he does not make a "fine" point.

 

[Flamin]

Joaquim Rodríguez: “Mi gran objetivo es el Giro de Italia”

Kicks off in San Luis again and goes all-in come il Giro _O_

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Joaquim Rodríguez: “Mi gran objetivo es el Giro de Italia”

Kicks off in San Luis again and goes all-in come il Giro _O_

so at least we have Porte vs J-Rod. Bodes very well.

Add Uran, Roche+Majka, Aru+Boots+Delfino etc. Line up coming together.

 

[all_in]

so at least we have Porte vs J-Rod. Bodes very well.

Add Uran, Roche+Majka, Aru+Boots+Delfino etc. Line up coming together.

+Evans,Pozzovivo,Valverde or Quintana,Basso,Dan Martin(if he will improve on longer climbs) and probably one of Niemiec and Ulissi.Also if Colombia will participate we can add Duarte as well.

 

[Gloin22]

Evans is clearly past it. If the key moutain stages were not cancelled, he would have not finished in Giro podium.

Pozzovivo or Niemiec are good for a Top 5, but will never be good enough to challenge for the top honours of GT.

Dan Martin is good on longer climbs, however he lacks recovery ( even Vaughters admits so and Dan admit so ) so if hes going its more for the stages and KOM maybe.

Ullissi is no GC contender in a GT at all yet. Neither is Duarte.

It's between Porte vs Purito vs Valverde/Quintana

 

[Arredondo]

With Porte and Jrod, the Giro already have two topclass riders. Together with Valverde, and the familiar Italians like Pozzovivo, Pellizotti, Basso, Scarponi and Henao (Colombian ), you already have a strong field for Giro standards.